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Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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Related question. Am I wrong in assuming virtually every business that has a "cash only" policy does so to facilitate tax fraud? I know there are legit exceptions, but isn't this the main reason they do it?

I always assumed it was to avoid card swipe fees. Margins at small restaurants can be incredibly thin, so a percent or two off each transaction could make a big difference.

Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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I highly doubt the government would trust a service like that for such problems or even waste their valuable time. I'm sure they have much more efficient ways of detecting this then trying to sift through that junk. It's also very easy to manipulate check-in's (Foursquare specifically), in respect to checking into locations when you don't actually have to be there, physically. And as far as Facebook goes, you can che…

I've heard, no first-person knowledge here, that upon suspecting a business, taxation agencies are not unknown to send out a person with a clicker to tally patronage during spcific time periods and see if that lines up with their expectations and what the business reports. As others have said, this could be one of many signals to use in determining who to follow up on.

Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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Related question. Am I wrong in assuming virtually every business that has a "cash only" policy does so to facilitate tax fraud? I know there are legit exceptions, but isn't this the main reason they do it?

You would be wrong in that assumption. Some businesses don't like paying the additional fees charged by banks when you use a credit card, they can be up to 8.5% according to a friend of mine that runs a locksmith. He would rather give 8.5% more service to the folks who come in the door. He has an ATM on site that will let you get a cash advance on your credit card if all you brought was plastic. It has a $3 transaction fee (plus what ever your bank charges). When people complain he says, "you can pay it or you can pay it." Then explains that he (like everyone else) would simply raise his price making that fee 'invisible' to you and let the banks get away with it. This way you have a choice (of sorts).

Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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The example to date is the Eiffel Tower, with 36429 checkins over the 3 years of Foursquare's existence. Approximately 6.8 million people visit the Eiffel Tower each year. It doesn't take a math major to realize that this is a laughable idea.

Probably the majority of those check-ins happened in the past year. Also, look at a Starbucks near where I live:

https://developer.foursquare.com/docs/explore#req=venues/49f...

Over 10k check-ins, and I doubt it has 2 million visitors per year.

Please elaborate on why you believe this is a laughable idea just from a numerical standpoint.

Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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Related question. Am I wrong in assuming virtually every business that has a "cash only" policy does so to facilitate tax fraud? I know there are legit exceptions, but isn't this the main reason they do it?

Cash can be spent immediately, CC receipts not so much.

In the case of CC you'll get a payment 30 days later, so in VISA vs. cash, you're not getting the interest on the money, if you need to use the money you'll have to pay your bank interest, and you'll pay a processing fee on top of it.

About the only advantage CC has is that it's difficult for employees to steal from the register, so instead they steal the magstrips.

Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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The effect is probably real, but the problem is the correlation coefficient probably varies over space and time. E.g. you probably have a lot more Foursquare users in Silicon Valley than in Smalltown, USA. Also, Foursquare probably has its popularity change over time. Right now it's still a little new and shiny, but its popularity might change over time. If it was the only information available, it would be better th…

The good thing is that it's not the only information available, just one more signal. And what's wrong with trying it out only in the Bay Area and New York, for example?

"Hey everyone! The IRS is using your check-in data to police the places that you frequent!"

I'm sure nothing bad at all would happen upon people reading that headline.

Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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You can slice this the other way also: using check-ins for a particular person to track where they visit. If their reported income is low, yet they check-in regularly at expensive restaurants and travel the globe, you've probably got a tax cheat in there somewhere or another.

Seriously, I have no idea why we discuss some of this stuff. It only serves to give ammo for other people to monitor and control us in ways they never have before.

Re: Using Foursquare to Detect Tax Evasion / Money Laundering

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The example to date is the Eiffel Tower, with 36429 checkins over the 3 years of Foursquare's existence. Approximately 6.8 million people visit the Eiffel Tower each year. It doesn't take a math major to realize that this is a laughable idea.

Probably the majority of those check-ins happened in the past year. Also, look at a Starbucks near where I live: https://developer.foursquare.com/docs/explore#req=venues/49f... Over 10k check-ins, and I doubt it has 2 million visitors per year. Please elaborate on why you believe this is a laughable idea just from a numerical standpoint.

OMFG Starbucks reported $3B in revenue this past quarter, but this store only has 10k checkins! Send in the G-Men, they must be laundering money!

Come on, seriously.

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