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U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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It's really tiring seeing the HN enlightened conservatives talking as if there is a coherent policy here. Withdrawing military support for Ukraine alone might be reasonable, I disagree with it but I can see the sense in it. But Trump is absolutely wrecking every relationship we have in the world, trading or otherwise, except with Russia, where he wants to remove sanctions and increase trade. Even if you disregard all…

do you legitimately believe this administration is just doing things at random with no plan or thought whatsoever?

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Thus two messages for every other country: 1. Make nukes, never give up on those regardless of what assurances of safety you get 2. If you are bigger and stronger - you are right, do whatever you want, international laws and rules do not matter any more Lets see where all this will bring the world to in the next 10 years or a generation.

> Lets see where all this will bring the world to in the next 10 years or a generation.

We've seen this movie before. It doesn't go well.

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Thus two messages for every other country: 1. Make nukes, never give up on those regardless of what assurances of safety you get 2. If you are bigger and stronger - you are right, do whatever you want, international laws and rules do not matter any more Lets see where all this will bring the world to in the next 10 years or a generation.

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Maybe that's the case. But how can one lecture Europe about free speech and turn a blind eye when Putin kills Navalny?

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Trumps attempts were not state sponsored.

Navalny - multiple attempts - nerve agent and suspicious death in prison.

Prigozhin - plane crash.

Litvinenko - radiation poisoning.

Skripal - attempted via nerve agent.

There is a difference between those, as well as dozens of "accidental falls", and a lone wolf against Trump.

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It's really tiring seeing the HN enlightened conservatives talking as if there is a coherent policy here. Withdrawing military support for Ukraine alone might be reasonable, I disagree with it but I can see the sense in it. But Trump is absolutely wrecking every relationship we have in the world, trading or otherwise, except with Russia, where he wants to remove sanctions and increase trade. Even if you disregard all…

do you legitimately believe this administration is just doing things at random with no plan or thought whatsoever?

Yes

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It would be one thing if there was a clear policy and adherence to it. In that case, you could discuss and reason in good faith. However there is no such indication that this decision is based on a considered policy.

Trump's supporters would say that this is a result of not wanting the US being involved in foreign conflicts. That is a laudable goal, however that is not what is happening here. From the article

> On Friday, the administration said it was sending Israel nearly $3 billion in new weapons, including more than 35,000 new 2,000 pound bombs, invoking an emergency rule under U.S. arms control laws.

This just makes it look like a petty tantrum at best and a wilful desire to cleave our relationship with Europe at worst.

Yes, we can all argue that Europe needs to be less dependent on the US, however what's on the other side of that is not pretty for the United States. Our ability to have the world's de facto reserve currency and hence our ability to sustain debt loads way in excess of usual is largely dependent on the US being the world's cop and sole superpower.

A truly multipolar world might be good for the world, but it's certainly not going to be good for the United States.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really tiring seeing the HN enlightened conservatives talking as if there is a coherent policy here. Withdrawing military support for Ukraine alone might be reasonable, I disagree with it but I can see the sense in it. But Trump is absolutely wrecking every relationship we have in the world, trading or otherwise, except with Russia, where he wants to remove sanctions and increase trade. Even if you disregard all…

do you legitimately believe this administration is just doing things at random with no plan or thought whatsoever?

Yes: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/doge-...
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