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Re: Doge seeks to cancel lease on key NOAA computing facility

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Post by cratermoon »

quantified wrote: post #10
9283409232 wrote: post #5

Even though Russia and China own Elon and Trump, they should be against this. Every country, including them, relies on NOAA's weather data. I imagine the end result of this is Elon being granted a contract to provide weather data through his infrastructure much like this Sovereign Wealth Fund will be used to invest in Trump-allied companies. The entire thing is a big shakedown.

Let's see. I expect it's someone else angling for the contract.

It's Accuweather. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Weather_Service_Dutie...

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Post by scarab92 »

omgJustTest wrote: post #9

This is about privatization of weather data, unsurpisingingly. There has been a big industry push to lobby noaa out of existance, cause LEO satellite networks can sell lots more data if there's no noaa service. Also - main customers are insurance providers, who need accurate forecasting for rate setting. Edit for sources: Federal Budget Cuts and Restructuring: The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by El…

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Post by kjs3 »

paxys wrote: post #4

Let me guess - all weather prediction workloads now have to run on some Tesla cluster?

More likely someone involved in the decision to close down free weather data has an economic interest in a company selling the same data, or some other interest that stands to make money knowing about the weather forecast before the plebes do.

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Post by bigyabai »

scarab92 wrote: post #12
omgJustTest wrote: post #9

This is about privatization of weather data, unsurpisingingly. There has been a big industry push to lobby noaa out of existance, cause LEO satellite networks can sell lots more data if there's no noaa service. Also - main customers are insurance providers, who need accurate forecasting for rate setting. Edit for sources: Federal Budget Cuts and Restructuring: The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by El…

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Yes? https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/14/politics/noaa-nominee-accuwea...

It doesn't take more than three seconds of Googling to get your answer. No wonder American media literacy is at an all-time low.

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Post by scarab92 »

bigyabai wrote: post #15
scarab92 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Yes? https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/14/politics/noaa-nominee-accuwea... It doesn't take more than three seconds of Googling to get your answer. No wonder American media literacy is at an all-time low.

That's not evidence?

In a previous administration, a previous CEO of AccuWeather was appointed to run NOAA.

This is extremely common, since who better to run a weather forecasting organisation, than someone who previously ran a weather forecasting organisation.

If anything, that's evidence that even when Trump had ample opportunity to privatize NOAA, he didn't.

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scarab92 wrote: post #12
omgJustTest wrote: post #9

This is about privatization of weather data, unsurpisingingly. There has been a big industry push to lobby noaa out of existance, cause LEO satellite networks can sell lots more data if there's no noaa service. Also - main customers are insurance providers, who need accurate forecasting for rate setting. Edit for sources: Federal Budget Cuts and Restructuring: The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by El…

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Post by bigyabai »

scarab92 wrote: post #16
bigyabai wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes? https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/14/politics/noaa-nominee-accuwea... It doesn't take more than three seconds of Googling to get your answer. No wonder American media literacy is at an all-time low.

That's not evidence? In a previous administration, a previous CEO of AccuWeather was appointed to run NOAA. This is extremely common, since who better to run a weather forecasting organisation, than someone who previously ran a weather forecasting organisation. If anything, that's evidence that even when Trump had ample opportunity to privatize NOAA, he didn't.

> If anything, that's evidence that even when Trump had ample opportunity to privatize NOAA, he didn't.

If you read the article, you might notice that this is an ongoing lobbying operation that has been fighting congress since 2005.

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Post by scarab92 »

bigyabai wrote: post #18
scarab92 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not evidence? In a previous administration, a previous CEO of AccuWeather was appointed to run NOAA. This is extremely common, since who better to run a weather forecasting organisation, than someone who previously ran a weather forecasting organisation. If anything, that's evidence that even when Trump had ample opportunity to privatize NOAA, he didn't.

> If anything, that's evidence that even when Trump had ample opportunity to privatize NOAA, he didn't. If you read the article, you might notice that this is an ongoing lobbying operation that has been fighting congress since 2005.

And yet, despite having all the levers to do so, Trump never privatized it.

Since you're conflating anecdotes with evidence, perhaps you should also consider the "evidence" that Trump has already decided not to do exactly what you're seemingly convinced he wants to do.

Nor has Congress.

Re: Doge seeks to cancel lease on key NOAA computing facility

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Post by bigyabai »

scarab92 wrote: post #19
bigyabai wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If anything, that's evidence that even when Trump had ample opportunity to privatize NOAA, he didn't. If you read the article, you might notice that this is an ongoing lobbying operation that has been fighting congress since 2005.

And yet, despite having all the levers to do so, Trump never privatized it. Since you're conflating anecdotes with evidence, perhaps you should also consider the "evidence" that Trump has already decided not to do exactly what you're seemingly convinced he wants to do. Nor has Congress.

Trump didn't have all the levers. NOAA cannot be defunded by an executive order.
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