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Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by pigscantfly » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 6:27 AM UTC

3836293648 wrote: post #9

That example is removing a lot of text. Is this the issue in the changelog or is it still removing details?

It converts to lätt svenska (simplified Swedish), which is usually intended for beginners / students and I believe is the point here. The translated text is missing a lot of details, though, yes.

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by vodou » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 6:33 AM UTC

kzrdude wrote: post #3

"easy swedish" is almost an official genre of the language because some government information is available in such easy to read versions (that's what they are called), but the total text amount of it all must be rather small.

It's worth noting that "easy swedish" isn't just for immigrants, it as also (mostly?) for people with an intellectual disability.

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by occz » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 6:46 AM UTC

vodou wrote: post #12

kzrdude wrote: post #3

"easy swedish" is almost an official genre of the language because some government information is available in such easy to read versions (that's what they are called), but the total text amount of it all must be rather small.

It's worth noting that "easy swedish" isn't just for immigrants, it as also (mostly?) for people with an intellectual disability.

As is often the case with accessibility affordances, they tend to improve things for groups outside of their intended audience, known as Universal Design. More reading on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_design

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by Phenomenit » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 6:52 AM UTC

Is there something similar in French? Preferably from French/English to simplified French?

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by triyambakam » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 8:19 AM UTC

I also learned Swedish, which I think is very interesting, because Sweden has 1/4 the population of California, but has a relatively large influence on Western culture. At least in my mind.

Regarding learning a language, I recommend looking into Dr Krashen's theory of language acquisition, specifically comprehensible input. His favorite resource is comic books. For Swedish, I really like SVT with a VPN.

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by yyx » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 8:21 AM UTC

chaosprint wrote: post #10

I found this very useful for learning second language: https://immersivetranslate.com/ Daily news is better resource than books IMHO. I have no vested interest here. The thing is, since it's not open source, I'm a bit worried about data privacy, especially because the plugin can see everything I browse.

Is it better than DeepL own extension?

Edit: it is.

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by danielscrubs » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 9:04 AM UTC

chaosprint wrote: post #10

I found this very useful for learning second language: https://immersivetranslate.com/ Daily news is better resource than books IMHO. I have no vested interest here. The thing is, since it's not open source, I'm a bit worried about data privacy, especially because the plugin can see everything I browse.

I don't think news will give you a well rounded vocabulary. Im studying with an Anki deck which got its word order scraped from news.

I know three different words for price (price in general, specific item, and formal) but I have yet to see, say, oven.

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by alberto_ol » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 9:13 AM UTC

The example is the incipit of "The dangerous inheritance" by Izola Forrester

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/75383/pg75383-images.ht...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izola_Forrester

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by Daegalus » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 9:14 AM UTC

This is super cool, I might fork this and change the prompt to Danish, and maybe use MIstral or DeepSeek as it has better Danish capabilities. I moved to Denmark and just passed my A1 exam, so looking for more easy stuff to do.

DR.dk has `ligetil` which is simplified/easy danish news. So if I can find similar, I use it. I can probably have LLM do easy for me. Also Noospeak for daily newsletter in Danish.

LLM has been great for language learning and translation.

Re: Ereader Easy Swedish

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Post by seer » Fri, Mar 07, 2025, 9:31 AM UTC

chaosprint wrote: post #10

I found this very useful for learning second language: https://immersivetranslate.com/ Daily news is better resource than books IMHO. I have no vested interest here. The thing is, since it's not open source, I'm a bit worried about data privacy, especially because the plugin can see everything I browse.

I think the idea is to use a book that you have already read in your language, maybe even multiple time (favourite book).

This way your mind already has all the associations stored in your brain for easy access, and you just need to link it to the foreign concepts. Supposed to be a great way to learn new languages after you know the basic grammar and such.