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Tom Stevenson on the deciphering of Linear Elamite

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Re: Tom Stevenson on the deciphering of Linear Elamite

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Related; A cryptanalytic decipherment of the Indus Script https://www.academia.edu/78867798/A_cryptanalytic_decipherme...

Many have claimed to have deciphered those symbols, but it's not even clear that it is a script, in the sense of a way to write a language.

Did you read the paper?

Technical presentation by author at IIT, Hyderabad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG7QKoxILwk

Re: Tom Stevenson on the deciphering of Linear Elamite

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many have claimed to have deciphered those symbols, but it's not even clear that it is a script, in the sense of a way to write a language.

Did you read the paper? Technical presentation by author at IIT, Hyderabad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG7QKoxILwk

A bit of searching turned up this, on a discussion between the author of that paper and a critic: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianHistory/comments/1iekde1/fina...

Re: Tom Stevenson on the deciphering of Linear Elamite

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The article was interesting. Can someone explain: Why is it called "linear" Elamite? Is there unicode for linear Elamite yet?

It simply means that the symbols are composed of lines – as opposed to a system such as cuneiform.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system#Linearity for more detail.

Re: Tom Stevenson on the deciphering of Linear Elamite

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The article was interesting. Can someone explain: Why is it called "linear" Elamite? Is there unicode for linear Elamite yet?

It simply means that the symbols are composed of lines – as opposed to a system such as cuneiform. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system#Linearity for more detail.

Thank you.

Re: Tom Stevenson on the deciphering of Linear Elamite

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The academic paper is here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361675439_The_Decip...

It looks convincing to me. It's exactly the same method used to decipher cuneiform, starting with proper names in certain inscriptions and then figuring out the content of other inscriptions somewhat like a crossword puzzle. The fact that one of the tablets turns out to record the syllabary in order is especially compelling.

Re: Tom Stevenson on the deciphering of Linear Elamite

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You can look at the transcribed Linear Elam corpus at https://center-for-decipherment.ch/tool/#script=elam

By enabling phonetic replacement, you can read the text of these old fragments of human writing: https://center-for-decipherment.ch/tool/#script=elam&dir=LTR...

The site grew out of an independent effort to decipher Linear Elam but these days we pretty much track what Desset is publishing. The glyphs are mapped in the Unicode private use range and strings can be copied into text documents as long as you use the provided fonts.

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The academic paper is here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361675439_The_Decip... It looks convincing to me. It's exactly the same method used to decipher cuneiform, starting with proper names in certain inscriptions and then figuring out the content of other inscriptions somewhat like a crossword puzzle. The fact that one of the tablets turns out to record the syllabary in order is especially compelling.

Funny anecdote from a friend who worked with Linear Elam and was very skeptical of the Desset proposal: When he applied the proposed decipherment to a short inscription on a pot, it read "God condemns who takes this vase", freely translated :-)

Earlier proposals had swathes of special cases to account for inconsistencies. They were not credible. This one works!

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