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Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#12

Another creator gone off the deep end apparently? > reading the review responses by the creator, I don't really trust it anymore. Being rude to others who are concerned over the recent move to closed-source (and without warning!) is pretty disheartening. > So, uh, the guy who made the VS Code Material Theme is threatening everyone who uses it in their products. He seems to have forgotten it was originally licensed un…

It seems utterly absurd to me that anybody should be able to issue a copyright claim on a collection of colors and fonts. Copyrights are issued to logos and slogans, not design systems.

If you think that sucks, check out T Mobile trademarking magenta https://www.npr.org/2019/11/25/782723429/t-mobiles-parent-te...

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#13

So weird that this person took contributions from others then made it closed source. It doesn’t seem right, but not a copyright expert.

Speaking generally:

It’s assumed that your contribution will be licensed with the current license (generally). Maintainers can change the license but that wouldn’t affect prior contributions. Basically anything up to that license change would still have the original license. This is what makes forks possible when popular software changes their license.

In order to go back in history and change a license, you need either the consent of your contributors or a document that would grant you the power to do that. A CLA could (but not all CLAs will) grant a maintainer to change a license at will back in time.

Other famous software that has seen a license change: Redis and Terraform. In those cases the license changed but already released software is still available with the old license and that old license allows for forks.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#14

Another creator gone off the deep end apparently? > reading the review responses by the creator, I don't really trust it anymore. Being rude to others who are concerned over the recent move to closed-source (and without warning!) is pretty disheartening. > So, uh, the guy who made the VS Code Material Theme is threatening everyone who uses it in their products. He seems to have forgotten it was originally licensed un…

So many people who are otherwise functional in society, for whatever reason just can't play well with others when it comes to online communication. This can be true for both software maintainers and users. People can't just leave their emotions at the door and file a bug report or respond to a help request, without including a little personal jab or passive aggressive snipe. Looking at some of those replies to users,…

People say that the most part of communication is nonverbal. If that's true, written communication would be heavily impaired by the lacking of all the visual cues that we use to interpret someone's words. I tend to agree with them, but that's just my personal experience.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#15

So weird that this person took contributions from others then made it closed source. It doesn’t seem right, but not a copyright expert.

Speaking generally: It’s assumed that your contribution will be licensed with the current license (generally). Maintainers can change the license but that wouldn’t affect prior contributions. Basically anything up to that license change would still have the original license. This is what makes forks possible when popular software changes their license. In order to go back in history and change a license, you need eit…

My understanding is that permissive licenses (BSD,MIT) can generally be relicensed. For example you can fork a MIT project under GPL. But to do the same for a GPL project requires agreeement from all copyright owners, or just you if you made everyone sign a CLA. This is the whole point of GPL.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#16

Another creator gone off the deep end apparently? > reading the review responses by the creator, I don't really trust it anymore. Being rude to others who are concerned over the recent move to closed-source (and without warning!) is pretty disheartening. > So, uh, the guy who made the VS Code Material Theme is threatening everyone who uses it in their products. He seems to have forgotten it was originally licensed un…

So many people who are otherwise functional in society, for whatever reason just can't play well with others when it comes to online communication. This can be true for both software maintainers and users. People can't just leave their emotions at the door and file a bug report or respond to a help request, without including a little personal jab or passive aggressive snipe. Looking at some of those replies to users,…

It’s off topic but I don’t believe most people are functional in society. I think they are hiding their shitty behavior to themselves and to others, and their true self comes out once in a while.

They hide it mostly to their family, but other human beings are treated like NPCs.

For example I live in the south of France and people are literally crazy on the road but they still avoid accidents by some kind of miracle. These are people from all sex, color, and age. The good middle-aged white father becomes a fucking moron when his car is turned on. The young new mom who pretends to love her children is speeding on the road like an idiot.

Society accepts that or turns its head the other way not to look at it, but it’s definitely around us and I see it every time I go to work.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#17

What is it about material themes that does this to people? The same kind of thing happened to the IntelliJ one half a decade back. At least that one wasn't literally just colours.

Just whatever that's popular and has a chance of monetization.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#18

Another creator gone off the deep end apparently? > reading the review responses by the creator, I don't really trust it anymore. Being rude to others who are concerned over the recent move to closed-source (and without warning!) is pretty disheartening. > So, uh, the guy who made the VS Code Material Theme is threatening everyone who uses it in their products. He seems to have forgotten it was originally licensed un…

The old commit history can still be accessed here:

https://github.com/material-theme/vsc-material-theme/activit...

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#19

Another creator gone off the deep end apparently? > reading the review responses by the creator, I don't really trust it anymore. Being rude to others who are concerned over the recent move to closed-source (and without warning!) is pretty disheartening. > So, uh, the guy who made the VS Code Material Theme is threatening everyone who uses it in their products. He seems to have forgotten it was originally licensed un…

So many people who are otherwise functional in society, for whatever reason just can't play well with others when it comes to online communication. This can be true for both software maintainers and users. People can't just leave their emotions at the door and file a bug report or respond to a help request, without including a little personal jab or passive aggressive snipe. Looking at some of those replies to users,…

> People can't just leave their emotions at the door and file a bug report or respond to a help request, without including a little personal jab or passive aggressive snipe. Looking at some of those replies to users, it looks like this guy just couldn't keep himself from including those unnecessary little put downs.

My consideration on this is:

A lot of software that at least I write privately is rather a manifestation of some deeper values/opinions that I have. So in some sense the software is just the tip of an iceberg, a manifestation of something deeper. The software might isolatedly be independently useful for other people, but this is not is essence. Its essence is the deeper values/opinions that made the software to be created.

In this sense, it is rather the rational thing to expect that most discussions of the software are strongly intertwined with the values/opinions of the programmer, because these form the bottom of the iceberg of the software.

P.S. Just to be clear: I am not the kind of person who does personal jabs or passive aggressive snipes.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#20

Another creator gone off the deep end apparently? > reading the review responses by the creator, I don't really trust it anymore. Being rude to others who are concerned over the recent move to closed-source (and without warning!) is pretty disheartening. > So, uh, the guy who made the VS Code Material Theme is threatening everyone who uses it in their products. He seems to have forgotten it was originally licensed un…

It seems utterly absurd to me that anybody should be able to issue a copyright claim on a collection of colors and fonts. Copyrights are issued to logos and slogans, not design systems.

It seems utterly absurd to me we litigate the ownership of ideas or their expressions, but here we are.

The founder of Bikram Yoga, tried to copyright a sequence of yoga poses, even though similar sequences have existed for for thousands of years. Monster, the energy drink maker, went after business for using the word "monster" in totally unrelated contexts. Disney trademarked "Hakuna Matata" (a Swahili phrase roughly equivalent to "no worries") after using it in The Lion King, prohibiting African businesses from using a common idiom in their own damn language. Don't get me started on Happy Fucking Birthday.

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