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Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

#11

I hate to be a hater, but having built myriad gaming PCs in my time, this doesn't really seem like much of a step forward. I'm hoping it's just the beginning. I'd love a modular plug-and-play PC parts ecosystem. This doesn't seem like that, yet.

Imagine being able to swap components between their laptops and desktops! That would be pretty cool. Not sure how practically useful, but cool nonetheless.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

#14
Framework is great because they took an entshittified category and made a good and repairable product in it, upgradeable in a way the other vendors refused to enable. That was the laptop. Now they made a less repairable desktop PC. This brings nothing to the market.

The soldered ram is particularly unacceptable. I get and believe that they could not make it work otherwise, but then they should have stopped the product instead of just adding to the e-waste.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

#15

what is the pitch, because desktops don't have a problem with replacements, repairs etc.

256 GB/s memory bandwidth for $2000.

Which should also be available from all the usual motherboard manufacturers. Possibly well before this one, since it doesn't ship until Q3.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

256 GB/s memory bandwidth for $2000.

Which should also be available from all the usual motherboard manufacturers. Possibly well before this one, since it doesn't ship until Q3.

Will it? I'm not aware of any other than the HP workstation. Maybe one or two of the Chinese mini PC manufacturers. But nothing you can buy as a mini-ITX motherboard.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

#18

I hate to be a hater, but having built myriad gaming PCs in my time, this doesn't really seem like much of a step forward. I'm hoping it's just the beginning. I'd love a modular plug-and-play PC parts ecosystem. This doesn't seem like that, yet.

Imagine being able to swap components between their laptops and desktops! That would be pretty cool. Not sure how practically useful, but cool nonetheless.

You can do that with https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/framework/

This announcement is bog standard mini-ITX.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

#20
post #14

Framework is great because they took an entshittified category and made a good and repairable product in it, upgradeable in a way the other vendors refused to enable. That was the laptop. Now they made a less repairable desktop PC. This brings nothing to the market. The soldered ram is particularly unacceptable. I get and believe that they could not make it work otherwise, but then they should have stopped the produc…

There's no other way to get 256 GB/s of memory bandwidth for this cheap, and that's quite valuable in many workloads. I'm curious to get one for compiling code too.

You can get similar bandwidth with server boards that cost 5-10x as much, or with a Mac Studio that costs 2.5x as much.

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