The look is reminiscent of "The Black Hole" (1979): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw2y3faZhUk
Neo Gamma (Home Humanoid)
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#12Founded in 2014. Do they have any actual product that isn't purely aspirational yet? Can you buy this Neo Gamma? What were they doing in 2014?
Apparently, they are using the robot in employee homes: "We've been dogfooding NEO Gamma in 1X employee homes for weeks now, doing chores around the house. Under the suit, NEO Gamma has a lot of HW improvements that make it more reliable. The 1X AI team also pushed hard to get natural human-like walking, sitting, and bending down to pick things off the ground. My conviction that the humanoid form factor is the only v…
> the humanoid form factor is the only viable shape for serving labor in a home
I have never heard a good argument for why this might be the case. Anyone care to chime in? I know that "built environment" and "ergonomics" exist but generally there is a lot of open space in a home that allows for a vast array of possible form factors.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently, they are using the robot in employee homes: "We've been dogfooding NEO Gamma in 1X employee homes for weeks now, doing chores around the house. Under the suit, NEO Gamma has a lot of HW improvements that make it more reliable. The 1X AI team also pushed hard to get natural human-like walking, sitting, and bending down to pick things off the ground. My conviction that the humanoid form factor is the only v…
> the humanoid form factor is the only viable shape for serving labor in a home I have never heard a good argument for why this might be the case. Anyone care to chime in? I know that "built environment" and "ergonomics" exist but generally there is a lot of open space in a home that allows for a vast array of possible form factors.
almost everything you have in your home is built for humans, so adopting this form factor is the likeliest to fit everywhere and be able to operate everything
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#15Promo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVcBa6NXAbk
The thing even sits on a couch, staring into the void, after doing all its chores. Seriously this stuff is unsettling at the deepest level. I already feel uneasy commanding an LLM at any time to do work for me. This human-shaped golem is dressed with a grey jumper that puts it exactly midway between a home appliance and a person. Will they sell more attractive clothes to dress them up a bit better? And then, will we end up asking them to check the mirror and tell us if they like them?
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#16Could we maybe stop showing robots vacuuming with a hand vacuum at this point? $200 robovacs have LIDARs now. Nobody is going to buy a $100K robot to do this.
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#17Could we maybe stop showing robots vacuuming with a hand vacuum at this point? $200 robovacs have LIDARs now. Nobody is going to buy a $100K robot to do this.
Or lean into the boomer retro aesthetic and make them look like this[0].
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#18When you scroll down one pane (to the "Home Humanoid" section) you get a nice jumpscare of that thing's... face, ish. I would not enjoy waking up in the middle of the night for a glass of water and finding that thing staring at the foot of my bed.
Yeah, I have to admit it looks kind of "uncanny", but at the same time it kind of has a sense of personality to it that other humanoid robots lack, in part because it has face with two distinct eyes.
The knit "suit" is also kind of a nice touch. Can't help but think that a robot wearing a sweater is kind of endearing.
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#19It's really telling how we're shaping our artificial helpers to not have a mouth, but eyes are alright. As if they're allowed to receive input but they should not bother us with any output!
For me an ideal artificial helper would be something I could have in the house and talk back and forth with while it works or have it as part of the dinner conversation. Think Bicentennial Man. Now that's what I want.
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#20The hardware is maybe 4% of robotics. 96% is the AI behind it.
This made me think.. I suspect someday AI will be able to just drop into a piece of commodity hardware and sort itself out and even compensate for shitty hardware a bit.
For instance, if it can't control a hand properly, it'll just run evolutionary algorithm on it for a while, compile the result and upload it into the hand controller and be off in about 4-5s.