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Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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This administration has adopted a blitzkrieg approach, fully aware that our system of checks and balances requires time to respond. Their apparent goal is to inflict as much damage as possible before legal challenges can be mounted. Notably, Congress seems complicit in this blitzkrieg, and it appears they have employed Musk as their patsy. I wonder what Musk thinks of this role? When this is all over, we must serious…

The last thing that we want is a constitutional convention. The american populace just gave trump and right wing authoritarianism a "strong" democratic mandate (don't act like ~2% isn't HUGE in modern elections). He's actually getting more popular in the face of his current "deconstruction of the nation state". You might try to meme this away as "political honeymoon" but I'm sure that this is durable. https://abcnews…

So for one thing, the popular vote differential was less than 2%:

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024

It's also not that large historically speaking:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-jus...

Also, his popularity has been dropping, even among voters who voted for him:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slip...

Finally, a lot of voters seem to be disapproving of what he's doing even if they don't disapprove of him. DOGE is becoming unpopular for example, even among people who support Trump.

I agree with your skepticism about a constitutional convention, but I also think something of that scale is necessary. I don't see how the US can continue on this path with blatant disregard for the constitution.

From my perspective, the problem currently isn't with the US constitution per se. The problem is people ignoring it. Maybe that's part of the same problem, but it seems to me any legal system breaks down when everyone is ignoring the law.

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last thing that we want is a constitutional convention. The american populace just gave trump and right wing authoritarianism a "strong" democratic mandate (don't act like ~2% isn't HUGE in modern elections). He's actually getting more popular in the face of his current "deconstruction of the nation state". You might try to meme this away as "political honeymoon" but I'm sure that this is durable. https://abcnews…

So for one thing, the popular vote differential was less than 2%: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024 It's also not that large historically speaking: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-jus... Also, his popularity has been dropping, even among voters who voted for him: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slip... Finally, a lot of voters seem to be disappr…

The moment that trump gets a single morsel of a victory related to territory expansion he will go on a victory tour which will seal his popularity for the rest of his presidency and movement. He might actually get panama or Greenland, which (Greenland especially) will have him lionized as a modern Regan by voters forever. Manifest Destiny never came close to dying.

I repeat, you will not like one bit what a 2nd constitutional convention will do. Kiss birthright citizenship goodbye. Embrace a constitutional ban on same sex marriage and late term abortions. You'll get far worse than this.

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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I find it really hard to be sympathetic when these same people silenced voices on the right for years and now they complain that the same thing is being done to them.

You have no way of knowing if the Anonymous medical researcher here is not right wing themselves.

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last thing that we want is a constitutional convention. The american populace just gave trump and right wing authoritarianism a "strong" democratic mandate (don't act like ~2% isn't HUGE in modern elections). He's actually getting more popular in the face of his current "deconstruction of the nation state". You might try to meme this away as "political honeymoon" but I'm sure that this is durable. https://abcnews…

So for one thing, the popular vote differential was less than 2%: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024 It's also not that large historically speaking: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-jus... Also, his popularity has been dropping, even among voters who voted for him: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slip... Finally, a lot of voters seem to be disappr…

The courts enforce the Constitution, and it remains to be seen whether the Trump administration is willing to defy the courts. That's what brings about a Constitutional crisis.

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So for one thing, the popular vote differential was less than 2%: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024 It's also not that large historically speaking: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-jus... Also, his popularity has been dropping, even among voters who voted for him: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slip... Finally, a lot of voters seem to be disappr…

The moment that trump gets a single morsel of a victory related to territory expansion he will go on a victory tour which will seal his popularity for the rest of his presidency and movement. He might actually get panama or Greenland, which (Greenland especially) will have him lionized as a modern Regan by voters forever. Manifest Destiny never came close to dying. I repeat, you will not like one bit what a 2nd const…

> lionized as a modern Regan

Someone so popular, well-known, and memorable that people will continually call him by the name of one of his Chiefs of Staff?

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So for one thing, the popular vote differential was less than 2%: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024 It's also not that large historically speaking: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-jus... Also, his popularity has been dropping, even among voters who voted for him: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slip... Finally, a lot of voters seem to be disappr…

The courts enforce the Constitution, and it remains to be seen whether the Trump administration is willing to defy the courts. That's what brings about a Constitutional crisis.

> The courts enforce the Constitution, and it remains to be seen whether the Trump administration is willing to defy the courts.

No, the Trump Administration has been defying the courts for a while now on the various spending cutoffs against which orders have been issued, so whether they are willing to defy them is no longer in question, how far remains to be seen, I guess.

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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I find it really hard to be sympathetic when these same people silenced voices on the right for years and now they complain that the same thing is being done to them.

You have no way of knowing if the Anonymous medical researcher here is not right wing themselves.

Isn't the likelihood insanely low like 10%? Maybe since it's a government researcher the likelihood is higher.

This thought calls into question why conservatives should even support academia in general, especially liberal arts academia, which shuns conservative thought like the plague while having massive influence upon the culture. At least STEM has measurable value.

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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it really is just amazing how Americans are mostly sitting around watching their country and it's position in the world be dismantled by a bunch of drug-addled lunatics who plan to enrich themselves and advance their very stupid and malicious little hobby horses.

Re: Anger, despair, and defiance from a voice within the US federal research system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have no way of knowing if the Anonymous medical researcher here is not right wing themselves.

Isn't the likelihood insanely low like 10%? Maybe since it's a government researcher the likelihood is higher. This thought calls into question why conservatives should even support academia in general, especially liberal arts academia, which shuns conservative thought like the plague while having massive influence upon the culture. At least STEM has measurable value.

I'm not a conservative, but the most recent Mindscape podcast had a psychologist on talking about polarization, and she presented the most polarized position, while also mentioning the bad things about being polarized. It was an educated version of what you would expect to find on any popular reddit sub when politics comes up.
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