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Garbage in Japan

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Re: Garbage in Japan

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The fact that Japan still has so much single use plastic is really puzzling especially since it has a relatively small landmass so no much room for landfills.

They burn it :-)

Exactly this. They just burn pretty much everything. I have no idea what the carbon capture situation is like in Japan. But at least they use the waste heat to power municipal baths.

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The irony is that products in Japan come with so much garbage . Small items come packed in thick, crinkly plastic that doesn’t hold any form once it has been emptied of its product. Bento boxes are several times thicker than the packaging for ready-to-eat meals in other countries, and they don’t compress at all. When I’m touristing, I rely on the ability to shed load and make space for other things so I don’t have to…

Weird, interacting with Japan mostly only through video games (and only a limited amount with food) I actually find them almost the opposite most of the time. Import games arrive in tiny boxes with almost no packaging and manuals that have been design like origami inserts to take up only the tiny remaining space available.

I wouldn’t consider eating Japanese food or playing Japanese video games to constitute “interacting with Japan” at all. At best, you are interacting with its cultural exports.

Re: Garbage in Japan

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Since moving here I have not actually found the lack of garbage cans to be much of a problem in day to day life, but when I was a tourist it did feel inconvenient since I wasn’t used to it (and as a tourist, you don’t have the structure in your life wherein you would naturally have access to trash cans throughout the day, like at a workplace). From the perspective of taking care of public spaces, I absolutely agree t…

As a tourist, I didn't realize what a commitment I was making when I bought a snack from a vending machine one morning. I had to carry around the empty wrapper until I got back to my hotel room that night.

The author of the linked article thinks you are simply wrong for considering this a burden.

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Its amazing how different the culture is. I don't even think twice about carrying garbage on me, but when I recommend Americans to just carry their garbage until they can toss it, I might as well have insulted their mother. Apparently the view is that if society wanted them to keep the earth clean, they would have set out more garbage cans.

The interior of food packaging is often soiled by the food it previously contained. I don’t want to transfer that soil to my pocket or my backpack.

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This tangential paragraph is gold:

"The modern condition consists of a constant self-infantilization, of any number of “non-adulting” activities. The main being, of course, plugging into a dopamine casino right before going to sleep and right upon waking up. At least a morning cigarette habit in 1976 gave one time to look at the world in front of one’s eyes (and a gentle nicotine buzz). Other non-adulting activities include relinquishment of general attention, concentration, and critical thinking capabilities. The desire for deus ex machina style political intercession that belies the complexities of real-world systems. Easy answers, easy solutions to problems of unfathomable scale. Scientific retardation because it “feels” good. Deliverance — deliverance! — now, with as little effort as possible."

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The fact that Japan still has so much single use plastic is really puzzling especially since it has a relatively small landmass so no much room for landfills.

They burn it :-)

Interesting. And how do they handle the toxic fumes?

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The fact that Japan still has so much single use plastic is really puzzling especially since it has a relatively small landmass so no much room for landfills.

They burn it :-)

On this note, the exterior of an incinerator in Osaka was 'refurbished' by the Austrian artist Huntertwasser, who was certainly an interesting person.

https://hundertwasser.com/en/architecture/arch122_mop_maishi...

If you're ever in Vienna, there is a museum of his design that is worth visiting - it's quite unlike anything I've visited before/since

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundertwasserhaus

Re: Garbage in Japan

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It's less of an issue when you live there versus when you just visit, however when you live there you have to learn how to get on the right side of your local garbage do gooder. They will judge your garbage separating ability and they will make it known if they have to adapt your work. There is one in every block, and if you haven't bumped into them then you are doing well. Sometimes they don't even live in your block, sometimes they commute to your building to judge what you left on the kerb.

Re: Garbage in Japan

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Since moving here I have not actually found the lack of garbage cans to be much of a problem in day to day life, but when I was a tourist it did feel inconvenient since I wasn’t used to it (and as a tourist, you don’t have the structure in your life wherein you would naturally have access to trash cans throughout the day, like at a workplace). From the perspective of taking care of public spaces, I absolutely agree t…

As a tourist, I didn't realize what a commitment I was making when I bought a snack from a vending machine one morning. I had to carry around the empty wrapper until I got back to my hotel room that night.

Trick: there is almost always a garbage can next to a vending machine, and there are many vending machines in Japan.

Caveat: some of those garbage cans are for can recycling only. But there is often another one for garbage like food wrappers.

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Its amazing how different the culture is. I don't even think twice about carrying garbage on me, but when I recommend Americans to just carry their garbage until they can toss it, I might as well have insulted their mother. Apparently the view is that if society wanted them to keep the earth clean, they would have set out more garbage cans.

The interior of food packaging is often soiled by the food it previously contained. I don’t want to transfer that soil to my pocket or my backpack.

Ehh. Unless you're eating a melted candy bar, you probably accumulate more dirt and sweat going through your day than whatever few crumbs leak into your pockets.
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