> A series of foundation models for transparent AI in Europe Am I the only one who doesn't see any link to any model? Too many words, no actual outcome.
Looks like they started work Feb 1 and haven't made anything yet.
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#12Why bother when there's Mistral which is already open, pretty good and, crucially, exists
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#13> A series of foundation models for transparent AI in Europe Am I the only one who doesn't see any link to any model? Too many words, no actual outcome.
I think they've yet to train let alone release any models. This is just a press release about the effort
Starting by misleading? Nice start!
The title should be “effort to train model” or plans, not saying “series”! Series without having even one?
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#14This should probably link to the actual press release since its more of an announcement of something forming rather than a release of any models, code, whitepapers, etc. https://openeurollm.eu/launch-press-release
This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future.
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#15How would EU enforce their regulation with an open recipe? Say I take the recipe plus my own data to train a model that has no check of my speech whatsoever, and let my friends use it, wouldn't that violate some regulations of EU?
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#16》under EU regulations, OpenEuroLLM will provide a series of transparent and performant LLMs
What EU relulations? It is a moving target, and nobody knows what exactly apply. It would be nice to provide list of regulations with references. And some testing suite or checklist, to verify AI use actually fits regulations.
Right now, if I integrate spellchecker into my app, I have no idea if I am breaking any AI EU regulations!!!
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#17> A series of foundation models for transparent AI in Europe Am I the only one who doesn't see any link to any model? Too many words, no actual outcome.
From https://openeurollm.eu/launch-press-release (3 Feb 2025): > "The models will be developed within Europe's robust regulatory framework...
Not a surprising stance if the project is funded by the people who are responsible for said regulatory framework
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#18The three goals featured prominently above the fold are: > truly open > including data, documentation, training and testing code, and evaluation metrics; including community involvement > compliant > under EU regulations, OpenEuroLLM will provide a series of transparent and performant LLMs > diverse > for European languages and other socially and economically interesting ones, preserving linguistic and cultural diver…
Why would diversity, especially linguistic diversity, be besides the point? Europe is a lot more culturally and linguistically diverse than either the USA or China.
Hier spricht man Deutsch.
A 600 km à l'ouest, on parle français.
50 km na wschód, Polska.
360 χλμ βόρεια, Δανέζικα, Σουηδικά; 250 χλμ νότια, Τσεχία; 750 χλμ νοτιοανατολικά, Ουγγρικά; και τα λοιπά.
Europe has a need, that the other models aren't bothered by — they can do it, but more by happenstance than on purpose.
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#19》under EU regulations, OpenEuroLLM will provide a series of transparent and performant LLMs What EU relulations? It is a moving target, and nobody knows what exactly apply. It would be nice to provide list of regulations with references. And some testing suite or checklist, to verify AI use actually fits regulations. Right now, if I integrate spellchecker into my app, I have no idea if I am breaking any AI EU regulat…
Don't worry, I would be immensely impressed if they even finish a pretraining run for a competitive model. Let alone get to the stage of doing any kind of fine tuning for any kind of purpose.
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#20They also had some search engine announced with similar name like "openeurosearch" or something close to that.
That project too seems dormant lately.
They just announce things and then the train leaves the station.