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Thoughts on Daylight Computer

jon.bo

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Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

#11
> For some reason every bluetooth keyboard I have tried so far glitches every so often and sends double or triple keys or occasionally the same key a couple dozen times with no way to stop it from happening.

This would make the device unusable to me. I wonder if others have had the same issue? Fundamentally, I need typing to be reliable. I guess this probably doesn’t happen via USB keyboards?

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#12

(not mine) was just checking what became of them and this review hit home I have no use for an android tablet like this, but as soon as they make a PC screen (either laptop or desktop) I'm pretty sure I'd buy one fast! Keep it up folks!

While I was looking up such screens, these also seem to sell "quick refresh" PC screens: https://shop.dasung.com/

Just did a quick search on HN and while it did get posted recent ones didn't get many comments, not many users perhaps?

I'd be greedy and wish there was something in the middle (13 is tiny for desktop but there's no battery so it's not really laptop friendly; 25 is a bit too big for my desk), but perhaps...

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It reassures me that going with an Onyx Boox Tab Pro was the better choice. Full e-ink, not e-Paper, but still can switch to a mode where you could, if you want, watch a movie. Backlight is not crazy orange, it's what you want (warmth controlled separately from brightness). Ignores hand when you use the stylus, or at least, uses hands gestures for different things than the stylus and I never had the issue. Bluetooth keyboard works OK. And it's Android (that's a plus for me, you have good software variety), with Google Services.

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post #11

> For some reason every bluetooth keyboard I have tried so far glitches every so often and sends double or triple keys or occasionally the same key a couple dozen times with no way to stop it from happening. This would make the device unusable to me. I wonder if others have had the same issue? Fundamentally, I need typing to be reliable. I guess this probably doesn’t happen via USB keyboards?

That sounds to me like some kind of retransmission error - a packet with a keystroke is being sent but the ack is not received so another packet is sent? I know nothing at all about if/how bluetooth actually manages reliability though, so could be unlikely or totally impossible.

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#15

(not mine) was just checking what became of them and this review hit home I have no use for an android tablet like this, but as soon as they make a PC screen (either laptop or desktop) I'm pretty sure I'd buy one fast! Keep it up folks!

While I was looking up such screens, these also seem to sell "quick refresh" PC screens: https://shop.dasung.com/ Just did a quick search on HN and while it did get posted recent ones didn't get many comments, not many users perhaps? I'd be greedy and wish there was something in the middle (13 is tiny for desktop but there's no battery so it's not really laptop friendly; 25 is a bit too big for my desk), but perhaps.…

The Dasung monitors are cool, but those are actual Eink, whereas the Daylight tablet is LCD, so you'll have a wildly different experience between the two.

There's a reflective lcd subreddit that discusses reflective lcd pc monitors, looks like at least one company is launching a commercial product soon.

Re: Thoughts on Daylight Computer

#16
From the picture, it has the low-contrast look of an older E-ink display. Here's a higher-contrast E-ink display.[1]

There are also emissive display laptops brighter than 1000 nits, which is about where they become sunlight-readable. Battery life might be a problem.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GKVM94N1F6E

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#17
Every time I read something like this it strikes me as so incredibly odd that people are into sunlight.

For me, direct sunlight is a 100% negative experience. It’s physically dangerous to skin, generally unhealthy if you aren’t Vitamin D deficient, extremely bright, causes wild temperature flux throughout normal working hours, etc.

I have spent a lot of time and a fair bit of money making sure natural sunlight never reaches the places I regularly work and sleep. I would live deep underground if I could. The incessant changes in light, temperature, humidity (even indoors) are a constant annoyance that must be compensated for.

It’s a wonder to me that anyone enjoys such experiences.

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post #16

From the picture, it has the low-contrast look of an older E-ink display. Here's a higher-contrast E-ink display.[1] There are also emissive display laptops brighter than 1000 nits, which is about where they become sunlight-readable. Battery life might be a problem. [1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GKVM94N1F6E

MacBook pro M4 with a low-glare display and 1600 nits iirc works OK outdoors but still doesn't get close to eink in my opinion.

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post #16

From the picture, it has the low-contrast look of an older E-ink display. Here's a higher-contrast E-ink display.[1] There are also emissive display laptops brighter than 1000 nits, which is about where they become sunlight-readable. Battery life might be a problem. [1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GKVM94N1F6E

The lower contrast is because it's not e-ink (with the very slow refresh times that implies). It's something more like an LCD.

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post #17

Every time I read something like this it strikes me as so incredibly odd that people are into sunlight. For me, direct sunlight is a 100% negative experience. It’s physically dangerous to skin, generally unhealthy if you aren’t Vitamin D deficient, extremely bright, causes wild temperature flux throughout normal working hours, etc. I have spent a lot of time and a fair bit of money making sure natural sunlight never…

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