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Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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Re: Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. Tinfoil hat time... Musk could use this to get Trump's tax returns. That could be blackmail material on Trump. (And the Supreme Court, in the same way.) He could leverage that into getting an even freer hand to do whatever he wants. Now who's ruling the country? People talked about "President Musk", but that was just sarcasm (we think). But he could use this to really be "the power behind the throne", with money…

Trump is happy to golf and sign EOs. Musk... Has probably cooked his brain on a combination of stimulants and ketamine and Neo-Nazi Twitter. He's living on entirely frictionless life because of his money and thinks his scions will be the princes of Mars.

The wildest thing about this take is that it seems fairly plausible at this point.

Re: Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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So the White House (where doge sits) has direct access to anyone’s tax returns. I assume this can be used to blackmail or threaten anyone they don’t like? Imagine the outcry if the Biden White House had tried to do this, especially because Trump has never (to this day!) posted his tax returns..

Hmm. Tinfoil hat time... Musk could use this to get Trump's tax returns. That could be blackmail material on Trump. (And the Supreme Court, in the same way.) He could leverage that into getting an even freer hand to do whatever he wants. Now who's ruling the country? People talked about "President Musk", but that was just sarcasm (we think). But he could use this to really be "the power behind the throne", with money…

He already has Trump's Twitter DMs, which might be even more useful than his tax returns for blackmail

Re: Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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Missing word: "Illegal" access. Henchmen violating privacy laws is just as illegal as of they were murdering people in the street. There's no "because your boss is a clown" exception.

Political appointees including the IRS commissioner have never had direct access to the system before given its sensitivity. There are likely legal ramifications that will be worked through the courts on this.

It is going to be decided soon if courts have any practical enforcement ability at all against them. Could get very ugly.

Re: Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Political appointees including the IRS commissioner have never had direct access to the system before given its sensitivity. There are likely legal ramifications that will be worked through the courts on this.

It is going to be decided soon if courts have any practical enforcement ability at all against them. Could get very ugly.

What happens if court says "it's ok"?

Re: Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is going to be decided soon if courts have any practical enforcement ability at all against them. Could get very ugly.

What happens if court says "it's ok"?

Then Musk will use the data to further his aims. Dissidents will have addresses, employers, etc exposed, for randos to use to abuse the dissidents.

Re: Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is going to be decided soon if courts have any practical enforcement ability at all against them. Could get very ugly.

What happens if court says "it's ok"?

This is inevitable. US attorneys are being given orders inconsistent with the law and DOJ rules. US attorneys are resigning instead, Democrat and Republican. Eventually the only people left are those willing to follow Trump's orders rather than the law.

The federal government is nearing a state of abeyance. It's run by a mafia. Why wouldn't they come for judges next?

Re: Musk's DOGE seeks access to personal taxpayer data, raising alarm at IRS

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So the White House (where doge sits) has direct access to anyone’s tax returns. I assume this can be used to blackmail or threaten anyone they don’t like? Imagine the outcry if the Biden White House had tried to do this, especially because Trump has never (to this day!) posted his tax returns..

Hmm. Tinfoil hat time... Musk could use this to get Trump's tax returns. That could be blackmail material on Trump. (And the Supreme Court, in the same way.) He could leverage that into getting an even freer hand to do whatever he wants. Now who's ruling the country? People talked about "President Musk", but that was just sarcasm (we think). But he could use this to really be "the power behind the throne", with money…

Trump has been pretty skilled at finding people to do his dirty work ... and they pay the price.

Not saying your tinfoil hat is any less likely, but Trump has a pattern too, and he's the only one SCOTUS has declared off limits.

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