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Large Language Models Show Concerning Tendency to Flatter Users

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Re: Large Language Models Show Concerning Tendency to Flatter Users

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That's just how people talk — at least, when they're trying to keep conversation productive. There's a reason the "shit sandwich" is part of professional communication etiquette. If you don't know how insecure the person you're talking to is — and yet productive communication with them is required , and there's no conversational arbiter there to enforce that — then you may as well assume for safety's sake that your c…

I'd like to introduce you to some of the most productive Germans on the planet and then we can have a frank discussion of whether or not the airy bullshit that passes for business communication is in fact a booster of productivity.

I wonder what such Germans think of the manners of feudal Japan when watching something like the recent tv show Shogun where it's not about feeling insecure, it's about showing proper respect (according to that culture).

Re: Large Language Models Show Concerning Tendency to Flatter Users

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post #5

That's just how people talk — at least, when they're trying to keep conversation productive. There's a reason the "shit sandwich" is part of professional communication etiquette. If you don't know how insecure the person you're talking to is — and yet productive communication with them is required , and there's no conversational arbiter there to enforce that — then you may as well assume for safety's sake that your c…

> This is the default way online-recorded conversations happen

That's not how most online conversations I see look like. People are much more abrasive and direct on forums for instance. This way of talking is more like corporate speech.

Re: Large Language Models Show Concerning Tendency to Flatter Users

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post #5

That's just how people talk — at least, when they're trying to keep conversation productive. There's a reason the "shit sandwich" is part of professional communication etiquette. If you don't know how insecure the person you're talking to is — and yet productive communication with them is required , and there's no conversational arbiter there to enforce that — then you may as well assume for safety's sake that your c…

I'd like to introduce you to some of the most productive Germans on the planet and then we can have a frank discussion of whether or not the airy bullshit that passes for business communication is in fact a booster of productivity.

I'm not sure I understand, perhaps because I'm unaware of the German stereotypes.

Re: Large Language Models Show Concerning Tendency to Flatter Users

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I imagine humans are just as likely if not more likely to do this.

sigh. I'm so tired of every LLM criticism being met with "well humans do this too"—if we are incapable of building something that doesn't have the flaws of typical human beings, why are we wasting our time and energy? We already have billions of fallible humans on the planet.
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