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Marsha P Johnson: A Chrome extension to highlight trans erasure

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Re: Marsha P Johnson: A Chrome extension to highlight trans erasure

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Post by novemp »

jfengel wrote: post #9
jey wrote: post #2

Apparently this is the background context: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/g-s1-48923/stonewall-monument...

I'm surprised that they bothered to replace the sign at all. I'd expect them to just remove it, the way they've eliminated all mention of homosexuality in other parts of the government. I suspect that the monument itself will be disestablished, as soon as they get around to it.

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Re: Marsha P Johnson: A Chrome extension to highlight trans erasure

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Post by pessimizer »

jey wrote: post #2

Apparently this is the background context: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/g-s1-48923/stonewall-monument...

> When describing the Stonewall Uprising, the website now reads: "Before the 1960s, almost everything about living openly as a lesbian, gay, bisexual (LGB) person was illegal, but the events at the Stonewall Inn sparked fresh momentum for the LGB civil rights movement!"

Were there any laws that affected trans people at all, though? There were laws against homosexual sex (covered by LGB), but I don't recall any laws about expressing gender identity.

Re: Marsha P Johnson: A Chrome extension to highlight trans erasure

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Post by kevingadd »

pessimizer wrote: post #15
jey wrote: post #2

Apparently this is the background context: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/g-s1-48923/stonewall-monument...

> When describing the Stonewall Uprising, the website now reads: "Before the 1960s, almost everything about living openly as a lesbian, gay, bisexual (LGB) person was illegal, but the events at the Stonewall Inn sparked fresh momentum for the LGB civil rights movement!" Were there any laws that affected trans people at all, though? There were laws against homosexual sex (covered by LGB), but I don't recall any laws a…

https://jacobin.com/2023/03/cross-dressing-law-united-states...

> Anti-cross-dressing laws were the exclusive province of local governments, and no state or federal legislature directly outlawed this type of dress. Several states did, however, pass anti-disguise or masquerade laws that encompassed cross-dressing when enforced. In 1845, for example, New York’s state legislature passed an anti-disguise law that made it a crime to appear in public with a painted face or when wearing a disguise designed to prevent identification. Passed in response to rural workers who wore women’s dresses and masks while participating in anti-rent protests, the law was later used to criminalize a wide range of cross-dressing practices.

> Similarly, in 1874, California’s state legislature passed a masquerade law in response to gambling saloon dealers who wore disguises to avoid identification by undercover police. As with New York’s anti-disguise statute, local police repurposed California’s masquerade law to arrest multiple people for public cross-dressing over the next one hundred years.

Re: Marsha P Johnson: A Chrome extension to highlight trans erasure

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Post by gumby271 »

pessimizer wrote: post #15
jey wrote: post #2

Apparently this is the background context: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/g-s1-48923/stonewall-monument...

> When describing the Stonewall Uprising, the website now reads: "Before the 1960s, almost everything about living openly as a lesbian, gay, bisexual (LGB) person was illegal, but the events at the Stonewall Inn sparked fresh momentum for the LGB civil rights movement!" Were there any laws that affected trans people at all, though? There were laws against homosexual sex (covered by LGB), but I don't recall any laws a…

The most obvious example is the "Three Article Rule" that enforced that you must wear at least 3 articles of clothing that "match" your assigned sex at birth. These were easy rules for police to use to justify arresting people. I'm sure others more in the know can provide similar laws and ordinances that affected trans and cross dressing people.

Re: Marsha P Johnson: A Chrome extension to highlight trans erasure

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Post by ryuhhnn »

Stevvo wrote: post #11

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Trans is an umbrella term that can be used to refer to anybody who does not identify with or express the gender they were assigned at birth (https://www.hrc.org/resources/sexual-orientation-and-gender-...). Having surgery and/or always presenting as a gender you weren't assigned at birth is not a prerequisite to being trans. "Transvestite" is a somewhat dated term that is considered offensive in some circles, though either way, a transvestite would by definition be "trans".
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