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Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

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Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

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Completely unrelated to this blog post but I really dislike Fintech saying "Get paid early" in their promos. It's clearly marketing at someone too stupid to be able to see right through how utterly useless that is. If you are celebrating getting your paycheck 1 day earlier (every time) then your financial literally and financial health are probably in the toilet. They _must_ know they are preying on people with state…

Though, in some cases (like when it's your bank saying it), it's usually just them frontrunning reliable (coming from a payroll provider) and predictable (getting paid the same time each month) ACH transactions with a near-zero likelihood of not settling, then crediting you the money before the ACH is totally settled, so not ALL cases are fintech gimmicks.

But most are, and unfortunately, as the proliferation of payday loans shows us, there is no shortage of desperate people and organizations willing to take advantage of that.

Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

#12

Completely unrelated to this blog post but I really dislike Fintech saying "Get paid early" in their promos. It's clearly marketing at someone too stupid to be able to see right through how utterly useless that is. If you are celebrating getting your paycheck 1 day earlier (every time) then your financial literally and financial health are probably in the toilet. They _must_ know they are preying on people with state…

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Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

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Completely unrelated to this blog post but I really dislike Fintech saying "Get paid early" in their promos. It's clearly marketing at someone too stupid to be able to see right through how utterly useless that is. If you are celebrating getting your paycheck 1 day earlier (every time) then your financial literally and financial health are probably in the toilet. They _must_ know they are preying on people with state…

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I’ve been using it for years and have experienced none of what you describe.

Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

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Completely unrelated to this blog post but I really dislike Fintech saying "Get paid early" in their promos. It's clearly marketing at someone too stupid to be able to see right through how utterly useless that is. If you are celebrating getting your paycheck 1 day earlier (every time) then your financial literally and financial health are probably in the toilet. They _must_ know they are preying on people with state…

Though, in some cases (like when it's your bank saying it), it's usually just them frontrunning reliable (coming from a payroll provider) and predictable (getting paid the same time each month) ACH transactions with a near-zero likelihood of not settling, then crediting you the money before the ACH is totally settled, so not ALL cases are fintech gimmicks. But most are, and unfortunately, as the proliferation of payd…

> not ALL cases are fintech gimmicks.

Fair and that's all well and good. I'm just saying if 1-3 days delay of getting your paycheck is going to have a big impact on one's life then I encourage one to reexamine their decisions, something else is the problem.

Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been using it for years and have experienced none of what you describe.

I work in the sector. There are lucky people and unlucky people. Welcome to lucky land. So far.

Or maybe you work in tech/customer support and are on unlucky island yourself.

Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

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What I wonder is “have they isolated third party dependencies?” If AWS is hard down, those may well be impacted—in some cases, by their own third party dependencies. You can test turning off your AWS environment, but you can’t really test turning off S3 for everyone…

From what I understand of payment systems this is so that payments through card machines, contactless payments for public transport, cash withdrawals from ATMs, etc. all continue to work. A lot of those systems are surprisingly insulated from AWS simply by virtue of being extremely archaic

I wouldn’t assume that is the case. The failure modes are different that is all.

I saw a whole corp POS platform a couple of decades ago that was hanging off a TFTP server on a machine that no one dared turn off in case the world ended. One day the DC UPS failed, it didn’t come back up and they had no retail operations for several hours while they sent a bunch of cash to a guy who had left to help them fix it.

There’s stuff like that everywhere lurking in the archaic.

I know of a modem in a DC which is used to talk to a branch office running AS400 hardware that is so old they have to buy spares off eBay.

Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

#18

Completely unrelated to this blog post but I really dislike Fintech saying "Get paid early" in their promos. It's clearly marketing at someone too stupid to be able to see right through how utterly useless that is. If you are celebrating getting your paycheck 1 day earlier (every time) then your financial literally and financial health are probably in the toilet. They _must_ know they are preying on people with state…

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Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in the sector. There are lucky people and unlucky people. Welcome to lucky land. So far.

Or maybe you work in tech/customer support and are on unlucky island yourself.

Or maybe I just have higher standards and better risk appraisal after seeing their customer support response for two separate people after they had problems was “fuck off and talk to the ombudsman”.

Problems being stuck payment during migration to another bank (after payment issues) and a frozen account after false positive on a fraud.

No those aren’t fuck off things they are fix them. Missing or stuck cash is not a go away thing unless you are utterly incompetent as an organisation.

Re: Tolerating full cloud outages with Monzo Stand-in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe you work in tech/customer support and are on unlucky island yourself.

Or maybe I just have higher standards and better risk appraisal after seeing their customer support response for two separate people after they had problems was “fuck off and talk to the ombudsman”. Problems being stuck payment during migration to another bank (after payment issues) and a frozen account after false positive on a fraud. No those aren’t fuck off things they are fix them. Missing or stuck cash is not a…

TWO people you know had bad support interactions!

Well then.

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