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DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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As a European this is just so terrifying and fascinating to watch at the same time. I really wonder (and hope for the best) what comes out of all this. With Trump and Musk and this agency that isn't one and all the presidential orders. Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this? Crazy times.

We'll look back on it as we do all of the other times people got away with things they shouldn't have gotten away with while holding the power of the state.

I'll also add that there are absolutely people in Europe who aspire to see this kind of thing happen there, and that in some cases, it already has. See: Orban, Brexit, Le Pen, AfD, etc... and that of course doesn't touch on what happens in less-Western European countries.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

Vote when the time comes, and hoping the judiciary behaves independently.

However, considering SCOTUS has largely decided POTUS is largely immune from most anything, I don't see why he can't just ignore the courts when the time comes...

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

> Is there anything we can do?

Keep durable notes and share them with your electeds. Particularly at the state level. These kids won’t be prosecuted immediately, possibly never federally. But their actions will need to be systematically undone at the federal level and individually prosecuted at the state and/or local levels. This is going to be a massive bureaucratic and legal undertaking, and we’ll need record preservation to do it.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #13
post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

Congress, lol

That. Or pitchforks. Or holes outside of towns[1].

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42318504

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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post #4

This confirms all my biases and comes from a source I don't recognize. That trips my anti-confirmation bias heuristics. Can someone do a journalism on this and get 1-2 other independent sources?

Not to be flippant, but why can’t you do that?

A journalist might have contacts in FEMA. Who should Joe Doe contact?

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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The security and intelligence apparatus made bet big that they could prevent a second trump election, after quite successfully destabilising the first -- they failed. And now the very system of unaccountable executive power which has been built up, is now being used against the executive itself.

This makes me increasingly concerned for a similar turn of events in the UK (ie., given the many actions of the UK state to enable state propaganda, censorship of the UK internet, and tracking of all citizens -- how these will be used if a far-right party comes into power.

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