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Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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So, are the feds saving money on hosting costs?! What's the point of this.

For a political leader who makes a lot of unsubstantiated claims where data contradicts him, removing that data makes his claims a lot harder to refute.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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It is presented as an attack against the left, which is popular with proponents of the current administration. Trying to analyze it at the object level is pointless - this is, chiefly, a political move toward political ends.

Really it’s just an attack against any truth/data found inconvenient. Why argue when you can just make it not exist?

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Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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This is not an objection against saving hosting costs, it is the fact that the original data is not saved or backed up. To understand our future we need to know our past. Saving shelf space in the library is not a good justification to burn our history books. If you don’t like having them up, you can put them in the basement. Storage costs hardly anything.

This is of course a deliberate move. By actively destroying ideas and work you don’t agree with, rather than archiving it, you make it harder for the other side to realize their vision. It’s a kind of scorched earth strategy.

It is easier to claim "everything functions better then before" if you destroyed data about how to worked before and have under control what is said about now.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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post #6
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not an objection against saving hosting costs, it is the fact that the original data is not saved or backed up. To understand our future we need to know our past. Saving shelf space in the library is not a good justification to burn our history books. If you don’t like having them up, you can put them in the basement. Storage costs hardly anything.

This is of course a deliberate move. By actively destroying ideas and work you don’t agree with, rather than archiving it, you make it harder for the other side to realize their vision. It’s a kind of scorched earth strategy.

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Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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post #5

So, are the feds saving money on hosting costs?! What's the point of this.

It is presented as an attack against the left, which is popular with proponents of the current administration. Trying to analyze it at the object level is pointless - this is, chiefly, a political move toward political ends.

Reminds me of that tweet where someone was complaining how difficult is to combat the arguments of the left because these tend to be based on facts.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is of course a deliberate move. By actively destroying ideas and work you don’t agree with, rather than archiving it, you make it harder for the other side to realize their vision. It’s a kind of scorched earth strategy.

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Presumably this is being downvoted by idealogues, but it's absolutely correct. A couple of years ago I went to an exhibition in Munich on this subject, of surviving material from the era.

It was a German doctor of the 1920s who pioneered the idea of giving trans people what was effectively a doctor's note against police harrasment, an ancestor of the modern paperwork transition process.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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post #5

So, are the feds saving money on hosting costs?! What's the point of this.

It is presented as an attack against the left, which is popular with proponents of the current administration. Trying to analyze it at the object level is pointless - this is, chiefly, a political move toward political ends.

I view it more like a battle between two groups of the elites. The left/right prism is a distraction. Personally I think both political parties got taken over by what we used to call the Neo-cons. The Republicans underwent an internal revolution that sidelined the Neo-cons inside it. So I view this as a battle between one group Neo-cons vs this new group represented by the current administration.

I don't have an opinion if that is better or worse, only time will tell. Demolishing USAID etc. should be seen as purging their political enemies and their supporters who's been nesting in the public structure for a couple of decades.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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post #14
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is of course a deliberate move. By actively destroying ideas and work you don’t agree with, rather than archiving it, you make it harder for the other side to realize their vision. It’s a kind of scorched earth strategy.

It is easier to claim "everything functions better then before" if you destroyed data about how to worked before and have under control what is said about now.

Chocolate rations can increase from 60g to 40g if you don't have a record of how much you got last week.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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post #6
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not an objection against saving hosting costs, it is the fact that the original data is not saved or backed up. To understand our future we need to know our past. Saving shelf space in the library is not a good justification to burn our history books. If you don’t like having them up, you can put them in the basement. Storage costs hardly anything.

This is of course a deliberate move. By actively destroying ideas and work you don’t agree with, rather than archiving it, you make it harder for the other side to realize their vision. It’s a kind of scorched earth strategy.

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