I found this to be a fascinating dive into a potentially serious safety concern. I was impressed how simple the mitigations could be based on the recommendations in the report. I find the evidence credible for an attempt to burry the issue, but honestly I don't understand the motivation. At this stage I feel Boeing and the FAA could really stand to gain some good press from being extra proactive about such issues. Especially when the proposed mitigations seem like they would be relatively easy to implement, and should not be expensive for airlines from what I can see. It seems like the source being the engine manufacturer and consequently having the potential of affecting other jets including potentially the airbus A320 would only improve the incentives for Boeing to get out ahead of this, and demonstrate a safety culture. Does anyone understand the motivations that could lead to the response we have seen from the FAA and Boeing?
Smoke in the cabin of two 737 MAX caused by Load Reduction Device system [video]
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#12Could this also have been activated in the Jeju air crash from the initial bird strike?
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#13Could this also have been activated in the Jeju air crash from the initial bird strike?
According to wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeju_Air_Flight_2216#Aircraft , Jeju was running different engines then listed in the video as impacted.
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#14Could this also have been activated in the Jeju air crash from the initial bird strike?
IIRC, that was a 737-800 not a 737 MAX 8.
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#15Could this also have been activated in the Jeju air crash from the initial bird strike?
No, that aircraft was a 737-800 (NG), whereas the LRD is only on the LEAP engines of the 737 MAX...
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No, it's because they blamed an undocumented system that killed two plane loads of people on pilot error...
Also because later they were caught forgetting to screw down things... see that lost door.
There's about zero trust in Boeing.
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Boeing has been in the media for a variety of corporate misconduct reasons, and the court cases were held in the US, which attracts the attention of the American media, which is a self-amplifying echo chamber which global consequences.
I don’t doubt there were similar Airbus cases, but to suggest that the redirected attention is wholly due to an interference campaign is a bit far fetched in my opinion.
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#19This is a issue that may also affect Airbus aircraft, but so far, it has only caused problems on two Boeing planes. Like MCAS, it was not disclosed to pilots, prompting the FAA to recommend design changes and notify flight crews. https://simpleflying.com/boeing-cfm-international-update-737...
It's not clear that is does affect Airbus does it?
It looks like only the LEAP-1b engines are affected by this, and I was under the impression that LEAP-1b was 737-MAX-only?
(A320 has LEAP-1a as far as I can see).
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No, it's because they blamed an undocumented system that killed two plane loads of people on pilot error... Also because later they were caught forgetting to screw down things... see that lost door. There's about zero trust in Boeing.
> No, it's because they blamed an undocumented system that killed two plane loads of people on pilot error...
And kept hiding and sabotaging the court process against them to hide that they and their pilots knew, even before the first crash, that this might happen. Like, I don't think Russia or anyone else did even have to do anything at all here, if they would've had any reason to. Boeing fucked up themselves.