Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Mac(OS)talgia

swallowmygraphicdesign.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 82 posts

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#11

Post by ryandrake »

exabrial wrote: post #3

All we ever needed was in Snow Leopard. Everything since then (ok except maybe for SIP and XProtect) is bloatware.

SIP is quite terrible. Requiring an access level higher than root to access system files, and only processes that are signed by Apple and have special entitlements can have that access level?

It's my computer, I should be at the top of the permissions totem pole, not Apple. If they're dead set on using signing to enforce the higher-than-root level, then I should be the one signing the executables. Fortunately, you can disable this crap.

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#13

Post by LiquidPolymer »

andrewclunn wrote: post #7
exabrial wrote: post #3

All we ever needed was in Snow Leopard. Everything since then (ok except maybe for SIP and XProtect) is bloatware.

Still can't believe we once had an operating system named OS X Panther. The puns...

I have an ancient laptop with Snow Leopard running. It keeps my Nikon Film Scanner useful since Nikon abandoned the software for these scanners rather abruptly.

I've been a pro photographer since 1990 and the Kodachrome setting embedded within the Nikon scanner is fantastic for capturing the color and detail of this exceptionally sharp film.

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#14

Post by caseyy »

exabrial wrote: post #3

All we ever needed was in Snow Leopard. Everything since then (ok except maybe for SIP and XProtect) is bloatware.

Snow Leopard and Windows 7 are from a time when computers were made to serve the user.

Then we discovered how much more money could be made by focusing on ad tech.

The relationship between people and technology was so different in 2009. I miss it.

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#15

Post by cameldrv »

I get the nostalgia, but boy are computers so much better than back then. MacOS 7-8 (not sure about 9, never used it) would crash constantly. There was no protected memory, so as soon as one app started misbehaving, you'd have to reboot the computer and it would take forever and you'd lose your work. My recollection was that this would typically happen 3-4 times a day. Apple's project to make a new MacOS that didn't do this failed and so they had to buy NeXT, and the rest is history.

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#16

Post by feketegy »

cameldrv wrote: post #15

I get the nostalgia, but boy are computers so much better than back then. MacOS 7-8 (not sure about 9, never used it) would crash constantly. There was no protected memory, so as soon as one app started misbehaving, you'd have to reboot the computer and it would take forever and you'd lose your work. My recollection was that this would typically happen 3-4 times a day. Apple's project to make a new MacOS that didn't…

OS X Lion was the most stable operating system I've ever used.

Tbh, it's all downhill from there, every new release gets a little worse not to mention all the hardware issues too.

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#17

Post by bangonkeyboard »

jaredklewis wrote: post #12
exabrial wrote: post #3

All we ever needed was in Snow Leopard. Everything since then (ok except maybe for SIP and XProtect) is bloatware.

No love for APFS?

Not from me. A black box filesystem that can't even accurately say how much space is free and destroys mechanical hard drives with longer term use. There were other options to deal with HFS+'s 2038 problem.

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#18

Post by shortrounddev2 »

cameldrv wrote: post #15

I get the nostalgia, but boy are computers so much better than back then. MacOS 7-8 (not sure about 9, never used it) would crash constantly. There was no protected memory, so as soon as one app started misbehaving, you'd have to reboot the computer and it would take forever and you'd lose your work. My recollection was that this would typically happen 3-4 times a day. Apple's project to make a new MacOS that didn't…

People aren't nostalgic for the stability of the system, they're nostalgic for a time when user interfaces were more friendly to humans and less flat/abstract

Re: Mac(OS)talgia

#20

Post by Reason077 »

cameldrv wrote: post #15

I get the nostalgia, but boy are computers so much better than back then. MacOS 7-8 (not sure about 9, never used it) would crash constantly. There was no protected memory, so as soon as one app started misbehaving, you'd have to reboot the computer and it would take forever and you'd lose your work. My recollection was that this would typically happen 3-4 times a day. Apple's project to make a new MacOS that didn't…

That’s true. The nostalgia nerds can rightly criticise the ever-spiralling bloat and inefficiency of modern systems. But modern macOS can go for months without a crash/reboot! Almost unimaginable in the Mac OS 9 / Win95 era.
Post reply on HN