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Re: Apple Robot Research

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Post by atonse »

solarkraft wrote: post #9

It seems unusual for Apple to share stuff like this (a lot of what went into Vision was kept secret). Is it for investors? I assume this means that this is far from being incorporated into any product.

I've read stories about how Apple was having trouble attracting certain researchers (academics) because they didn't allow them to publish their research.

This might be Apple's way of attracting a larger swath of academics, given that this kind of more pure research doesn't risk leaking future product roadmaps too much (which is mainly what Apple cares about with this sort of thing)

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Post by jorl17 »

Once I read this sentence in the video and saw 5 seconds of it, I instantly knew it to be true:

"Our research hypotheses [are] that robots should not only move to fulfill functional purposes and constraints, but also move 'elegantly', using movements to express its internal states to humans during interaction."

It intantly clicked as an obvious design trait — it's robot body language.

Re: Apple Robot Research

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Post by reaperducer »

jorl17 wrote: post #12

Once I read this sentence in the video and saw 5 seconds of it, I instantly knew it to be true: "Our research hypotheses [are] that robots should not only move to fulfill functional purposes and constraints, but also move 'elegantly', using movements to express its internal states to humans during interaction." It intantly clicked as an obvious design trait — it's robot body language.

The video is very very "Apple robot vs Google|Microsoft robot," in the same contrast as iPhone vs BlackBerry.

Both will complete a task, but one does it in a more natural way. Make computers more human, rather than the other way around.

And I'd totally buy that robot lamp.

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Post by alexhackhack »

People growing up with expressive robots might feel sad if(!) they understand that this behavior is artificial later in their life.

I read an interesting article on how young people will not be able to tell what a computer or program really is because so many things are „smart“ now and support speech and gestures as user input.

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Post by Geste »

Communicate intention (Do robots have intention ? Or is it just mine ?)

Display attention (They don't need attention.)

Show attitude (They don't need nor don't have attitude unless artificially programmed.)

Express emotions (...What ?)

Why are we trying to make robots seem more human ? I mean, it's straight from Apple Playbook (like the breathing light made to mimic us https://avital.ca/notes/a-closer-look-at-apples-breathing-li...) but damn, if it isn't frustrating to see all the stratagems just to make us like those machines we have no interest in liking !

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Post by pedalpete »

jer0me wrote: post #8
pedalpete wrote: post #5

One of the robotic meal delivery companies that operates around Santa Monica has a very good at communicating with pedestrians on the sidewalk that it sees them, and is giving them right of way. It acts a bit like a confused, startled, and apologetic, simp (sorry, I can't find a better term) and it kinda shimmies and scuttles back and forth. It's difficult to describe, but it is definitely communicating "sorry human,…

What’s it called?

I don't know, I was just travelling through.

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Post by CharlesW »

jer0me wrote: post #8
pedalpete wrote: post #5

One of the robotic meal delivery companies that operates around Santa Monica has a very good at communicating with pedestrians on the sidewalk that it sees them, and is giving them right of way. It acts a bit like a confused, startled, and apologetic, simp (sorry, I can't find a better term) and it kinda shimmies and scuttles back and forth. It's difficult to describe, but it is definitely communicating "sorry human,…

What’s it called?

It was most likely a Serve Robotics delivery robot, which are often seen around Santa Monica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DyG80ivM0

Re: Apple Robot Research

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Post by aeontech »

Geste wrote: post #17

Communicate intention (Do robots have intention ? Or is it just mine ?) Display attention (They don't need attention.) Show attitude (They don't need nor don't have attitude unless artificially programmed.) Express emotions (...What ?) Why are we trying to make robots seem more human ? I mean, it's straight from Apple Playbook (like the breathing light made to mimic us https://avital.ca/notes/a-closer-look-at-apples-…

TBH I think you are underestimating the practicality of it. If we are co-working or co-inhabiting with non-static entities, this becomes a much bigger concern. There is a reason industrial robots are generally in safety cages, with rapid shutdown any time the safety boundary is crossed by a human.

Option 1 - my home robot makes a sudden movement, catching me off guard, and smacking me across the shins (or worse).

Option 2 - my robot loudly announces "warning, moving to the left in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1", which drives me insane after a few days.

Option 3 - my robot taps into a million years of non-verbal communication that humans have evolved, and indicates what it is about to do both with more subtle audible and physical cues.

PS: regarding "display attention" - trivial example, "hey assistant, remind me to do X on Sunday"

- option 1: no attention display, I have no idea whether my request has been recorded

- option 2: verbal or auditory or physical cue that assistant is listening, and a cue to confirm that the request was processed successfully.

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