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California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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electric bills for average residential customers in this PG&E area have increased five times in one year. The average residential bill has increased 56% in three years. This is after a state-backed replacement of senior management after the court losses. source: local news reporter Kevin Truong

Electricity is expensive in California, more at 11.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the retail electric rate really almost $0.30? Here in Maryland, it’s half that, and charging my EV is like $0.11. At $0.30, having an EV wouldn’t be any cheaper than buying gas!

Eventually oil will run out and the only vehicles driving around will be electric. It’s not about cost, it’s about sustainability.

Oil will never run out. Civilization will collapse (due to CO2 emissions) before that happens, which will prevent extraction of the remaining (hard to get) oil.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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Real subheadline says: > The state went a record 98 of 116 days providing up to 10 hours Does the study clarify? "Up to” could mean almost anything, and could be rewritten ”no more than"

Yeah, I don’t see how this is the record. California went many years without producing more than 10 hours of electricity from renewables.

I wonder what the study actually found.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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My electric rates more than doubled. No doubt for different reasons, including previously shelved infrastructure improvements such as underground lines. For whatever reason, it hurts like hell.

Every year, I run the numbers to see how many years it will take for going completely off grid (to avoid paying for prior and current corruption at PG&E) to pay for itself.

Every year, it decreases.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the retail electric rate really almost $0.30? Here in Maryland, it’s half that, and charging my EV is like $0.11. At $0.30, having an EV wouldn’t be any cheaper than buying gas!

Eventually oil will run out and the only vehicles driving around will be electric. It’s not about cost, it’s about sustainability.

I thought part of the argument though was that renewables are now cheaper.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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post #5

My electric rates more than doubled. No doubt for different reasons, including previously shelved infrastructure improvements such as underground lines. For whatever reason, it hurts like hell.

Every year, I run the numbers to see how many years it will take for going completely off grid (to avoid paying for prior and current corruption at PG&E) to pay for itself. Every year, it decreases.

SDG&E is equally bad or worse. And people in this region don’t all have Silicon Valley jobs to pay that bill. Apartments that barely run AC or heat often look at $300 monthly electric bills now.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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post #5

My electric rates more than doubled. No doubt for different reasons, including previously shelved infrastructure improvements such as underground lines. For whatever reason, it hurts like hell.

Is the retail electric rate really almost $0.30? Here in Maryland, it’s half that, and charging my EV is like $0.11. At $0.30, having an EV wouldn’t be any cheaper than buying gas!

Even at $0.10 per kWh and Washington state’s top 3 gas prices in the country and $7,500 federal income tax credit, an EV does not pencil out to be cheaper than a gas vehicle, due to higher tire costs and depreciation due to battery replacement costs.

It was break even though, and the EV driving/re-fueling experiencing is much nicer for local travel, so it still makes sense to go with EV.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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post #8
post #5

My electric rates more than doubled. No doubt for different reasons, including previously shelved infrastructure improvements such as underground lines. For whatever reason, it hurts like hell.

Is the retail electric rate really almost $0.30? Here in Maryland, it’s half that, and charging my EV is like $0.11. At $0.30, having an EV wouldn’t be any cheaper than buying gas!

I wish it was $0.30... My rate is about 0.46.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eventually oil will run out and the only vehicles driving around will be electric. It’s not about cost, it’s about sustainability.

Oil will never run out. Civilization will collapse (due to CO2 emissions) before that happens, which will prevent extraction of the remaining (hard to get) oil.

If fossil fuels actually runs out then we'll just use pure plant oils anyways or synthetically create them.

Re: California went a record 98 days with 10 hours of electricity from renewables

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the retail electric rate really almost $0.30? Here in Maryland, it’s half that, and charging my EV is like $0.11. At $0.30, having an EV wouldn’t be any cheaper than buying gas!

Eventually oil will run out and the only vehicles driving around will be electric. It’s not about cost, it’s about sustainability.

So what are you going to make the rest of the car from. I think that when oil runs out we’re all screwed, back to XIX century.
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