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Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Scrubbed After Delta Air Flies into Restricted Airspace

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Re: Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Scrubbed After Delta Air Flies into Restricted Airspace

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Post by dylan604 »

gbear605 wrote: post #5
gazchop wrote: post #2

This is slightly poetic after the flights diverted due to the Starship debris the other day. Also remind me never to fly Delta.

Delta seems to have done nothing wrong, they were following incorrect instructions from air traffic control.

Just to play devil's advocate for a second, but as a pilot (even a commercial pilot about to be instructed by ATC) are you not still expected to look up conditions in the area of your flight? I would expect NOTAMs to be a part of that check of the conditions. If you know of the restrictions and ATC instructs you into that area, a quick confirm request about the NOTAM conflict does not seem out of place.

Re: Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Scrubbed After Delta Air Flies into Restricted Airspace

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Post by L-four »

dylan604 wrote: post #10
stravant wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if ATC gets a number to call.

It's should not be ATC's responsibility to call anyone with random checks for NOTAMs to issue. If you want a NOTAM, you call ATC. At least, that's the only way it makes any kind of logical sense.

Grandparent was a joke, when airplane pilots make a mistake. ATC gives them a number to call.

Re: Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Scrubbed After Delta Air Flies into Restricted Airspace

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Post by gresrun »

dmckeon wrote: post #3

> Delta: "The Delta crew on flight 480 continues to follow ATC instruction along its journey from Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL). The flight is en route to HNL with no issue.” Apparently ATC (Air Traffic Control) was unaware of the TRF (Temporary Flight Restriction) around Vandenburg for launches. Perhaps this will prompt an improvement in communication and cooperation in future.

The ATC was very much aware of the launch in progress[0]. The ATC made a mistake by instructing DL480 to fly a more northern route than the aircrew originally filed.

[0]: https://youtu.be/4RMhf0YELrA

Re: Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Scrubbed After Delta Air Flies into Restricted Airspace

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Post by rob74 »

dmckeon wrote: post #3

> Delta: "The Delta crew on flight 480 continues to follow ATC instruction along its journey from Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL). The flight is en route to HNL with no issue.” Apparently ATC (Air Traffic Control) was unaware of the TRF (Temporary Flight Restriction) around Vandenburg for launches. Perhaps this will prompt an improvement in communication and cooperation in future.

BTW, it's written Vandenberg, not Vandenburg as in the article.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

hawthornio wrote: post #14
gazchop wrote: post #2

This is slightly poetic after the flights diverted due to the Starship debris the other day. Also remind me never to fly Delta.

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Re: Falcon 9 Rocket Launch Scrubbed After Delta Air Flies into Restricted Airspace

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Post by IncreasePosts »

dylan604 wrote: post #10
stravant wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if ATC gets a number to call.

It's should not be ATC's responsibility to call anyone with random checks for NOTAMs to issue. If you want a NOTAM, you call ATC. At least, that's the only way it makes any kind of logical sense.

Please don't post about things you don't know anything about. The internet is muddled enough as it is.
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