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Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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"no biggie, it's just like learning to navigate a busy city" Such insidious reframing with absolutely no mention of burnout possibility. Yuck.

I drive a classic car in NYC and have 100% patience and 0% frustration. Meanwhile I cant keep a job at a big corpo because of my frustrated rebellious behavior. So yeah, awful framing.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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"no biggie, it's just like learning to navigate a busy city" Such insidious reframing with absolutely no mention of burnout possibility. Yuck.

That phrase resonated with me. Do you not get burnout when you spend too much time in a busy city? God forbid you'd have to navigate one 8-5 every weekday.

It's important to realize that busy cities (and large organizations) are the way they are because many people can tolerate them and some people thrive in them. (Nothing wrong with deciding you personally can't, or just that you don't want to.)

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

TFA doesn't say that "frustration tolerant" people tolerate problems , but that they tolerate frustration as they fix those problems "without succumbing to negative emotions or counterproductive behaviors". I was far more frustration intolerant earlier in my career, part of which I can now attribute to undiagnosed AuDHD. Although I can't say that I've mastered frustration tolerance, I've learned to moderate it to the…

I’d be interested to hear how you’ve learned to moderate your response to frustration more effectively. Practices? Medication? Etc.

For me, it was better sleep, a healthier diet, and regular weightlifting nearly every morning.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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This is a great piece, and the comments here are part of the learning - the author has hit the nail on the head of the growth opportunity for most engineers. Frustration is an internal issue, managing it is difficult, and being told you need to is uncomfortable.

For a mid level engineer, learning to do so effectively is worth a lot more money than any other marginal skill improvement.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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post #7

As it turns out my frustration tolerance is very low...I decided to check out of this rotten system and go my own way a few months ago. My stress levels plummeted since.

Yeah... same.

Power to those who can function in highly frustrating environments, but for me the only winning move is to not play the game in the first place.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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post #8
post #6

"no biggie, it's just like learning to navigate a busy city" Such insidious reframing with absolutely no mention of burnout possibility. Yuck.

That phrase resonated with me. Do you not get burnout when you spend too much time in a busy city? God forbid you'd have to navigate one 8-5 every weekday.

Most people learn it once and then they go around the city largely on autopilot. Some stress is there but more manageable. Doing on autopilot is not possible in large orgs, or if it's possible it's prone to make you feel unfulfilled instead of burned out.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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Sounds like a buddhist thing.

Also sounds like an exploit, a cheap excuse for people with the power to profit from frustratation to get away.

On the long run, frustration leads to paranoia, and paranoia leads to unpredictableness, which in high doses seems to be harmful for any organization.

So, it seams that dealing with (not exactly tolerating, also not intolerating, it's different) paranoia is way more important. But also, if we don't have paranoia, we can find ourselves in the receiving end of endless frustration.

A delicate situation.

Re: Frustration Tolerance: An Essential for Surviving Large Orgs

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post #7

As it turns out my frustration tolerance is very low...I decided to check out of this rotten system and go my own way a few months ago. My stress levels plummeted since.

Yeah... same. Power to those who can function in highly frustrating environments, but for me the only winning move is to not play the game in the first place.

So what's the alternative?
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