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AWS will discontinue support for AWS App Mesh
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#12A company with Amazons resources could keep these fringe services around as long as there are paying customers. Just increase the price of the service to match the costs of keeping the legacy service around.
It's an opportunity cost. Since they can't have infinite employees, their current employees are better allocated to other things.
For them it's 0.00...1% of their business. For a small customer who deployed on their service it might be 30% or more of their development budget. Of course that's the way corporations do business. But that's why as a small one you can't really trust any of them. You can just place bets and sometimes you lose.
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#13Feels like Amazon are turning into Microsoft slowly. Try everything, spread themselves too thin and then shitcan it later. I am reluctant to use anything other than their core IaaS and EKS stuff. Some of the ancillary stuff appears to be maintained by two drunk guys in a shed somewhere as well.
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#15A company with Amazons resources could keep these fringe services around as long as there are paying customers. Just increase the price of the service to match the costs of keeping the legacy service around.
Three problems with this approach. 1. The ongoing “ktlo” (keep the lights on) maintenance cost for a minimal public aws service is on the order of 6 SDEs. Theres a constant stream of security and integration improvements like new IAM policy features, KMS handling, billing & metering, console chrome, docs, etc. These are generally nonnegotiable to keep _any_ sort of consistency across AWS. This is discounting most ope…
explaining that KTLO requires 6 SDEs is something I wish every executive knew.
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#16Oh this is just moving to Envoy as the reverse proxy.
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#17Better start keeping an eye on this page: https://github.com/SummitRoute/aws_breaking_changes
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#18The one service that is not dead yet. But is smelling funny is CodePipeline. It is so bad and they’ve already discontinued CodeCommit (the very bad hosted git service), Cloud9 (hosted IDE that is based on VSCode even though they would never admit it externally) and CodeStar.
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#19Yes, there is a long migration period (almost 2 years). Yes, if you are paying for support, they will help you a lot with the migration. But if you are using a (costly) managed service it's because you don't want the hurdle of managing the service. Migrating off something is instead probably the most time consuming thing in a service lifecycle. So, even if it is normal to sunset products and people deal with it all t…
> But if you are using a (costly) managed service it's because you don't want the hurdle of managing the service.
On the other hand part of the trade offs of using such services is that you have no control of when they will become unavailable. Its not just normal, its expected.
Re: AWS will discontinue support for AWS App Mesh
#20Yes, there is a long migration period (almost 2 years). Yes, if you are paying for support, they will help you a lot with the migration. But if you are using a (costly) managed service it's because you don't want the hurdle of managing the service. Migrating off something is instead probably the most time consuming thing in a service lifecycle. So, even if it is normal to sunset products and people deal with it all t…
it's not just managed service where you can move to your self hosted version when they stop managing it, it's a fully proprietary stack that's just no longer available to use.