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Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#11

Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

nomel wrote: post #8
behnamoh wrote: post #4

Git is one of those technologies that I never got to wrap my head around of, because in so many ways it doesn't follow intuition and unless you have been using it for a long time, for literally every action you would probably have to Google or use the man page of the command.

I was trying to delete a file from history yesterday. The built in way (filter-branch) pops up a warning, with a long delay, saying you should hit Control+C and go download a third party python script called filter-repo...

Possibly consider that "deleting a file from history" is rather far outside the norm or recommended practice for git (even though it is, of course, entirely possible)

Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#12

Post by antithesis-nl »

1over137 wrote: post #7
antithesis-nl wrote: post #5

Yeah, please don't create sites like this. Just... don't. Any, and I mean any "in case of a Git problem, just do this " recipe is wrong , often in very subtle ways. So, my advice: in case of a Git problem, contact the help channel provided by the organization hosting your Git repository. They'll help you out! And if it's your personal-I-am-truly-the-only-human-using-this repository? Just recreate it, and save yoursel…

We’re not all working at $bigcorp with dedicated help teams. Sites like this are great and have helped me many times!

OK, so you've truly screwed up your your personal/small-team repos to the point of requiring poorly-understood command sequences from the Notoriously Reliable Internet more than once?

I applaud you for your honesty, but... Really?

Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#13

Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

antithesis-nl wrote: post #5

Yeah, please don't create sites like this. Just... don't. Any, and I mean any "in case of a Git problem, just do this " recipe is wrong , often in very subtle ways. So, my advice: in case of a Git problem, contact the help channel provided by the organization hosting your Git repository. They'll help you out! And if it's your personal-I-am-truly-the-only-human-using-this repository? Just recreate it, and save yoursel…

I've been using git for at least 6 years now, maybe 10.

Sites like this are a great aid to remembering how to deal with certain situations. And yes, I understand what the commands do, but that doesn't mean I always could, or always want to, put together the series of steps from scratch.

And also, we self-host our own gitea hosting because we're not getting sucked down by yet another hosting debacle (old enough to have suffered under sourceforge, and don't plan on getting in the same situation again). For git hosting just as much as everything else on line, if you're not paying for it, you're not the customer.

Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#14

Post by nomel »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #11
nomel wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was trying to delete a file from history yesterday. The built in way (filter-branch) pops up a warning, with a long delay, saying you should hit Control+C and go download a third party python script called filter-repo...

Possibly consider that "deleting a file from history" is rather far outside the norm or recommended practice for git (even though it is, of course, entirely possible)

> even though it is, of course, entirely possible

I take the more realistic perspective: until git makes it impossible to commit something that shouldn't have been, like a secret, then deleting a file from history is a fundamental requirement of git.

Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#15

Post by jazzyjackson »

antithesis-nl wrote: post #12
1over137 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re not all working at $bigcorp with dedicated help teams. Sites like this are great and have helped me many times!

OK, so you've truly screwed up your your personal/small-team repos to the point of requiring poorly-understood command sequences from the Notoriously Reliable Internet more than once? I applaud you for your honesty, but... Really?

Bro, really, self-taught people with a bare minimum understanding of the tools they use are super normal, and when they get into a pit they have to fix it themselves.

Although to your point folks would be better served carefully reading the docs / git book than googling a specific solution to their specific error code.

Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#16

Post by antithesis-nl »

doubled112 wrote: post #10
1over137 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’re not all working at $bigcorp with dedicated help teams. Sites like this are great and have helped me many times!

What happens when you are the help team and it's the first time something goes wrong?

A 'team', by definition, consists of more people than 'you.'

And, by the time a '#githelp team' is formed, it's to address patterns to which there are known solutions.

One of the many problems with Git, is that these solutions depend very, very much on the structure of the repo and the common practices of its users.

So, instead of executing random commands from the Internet, just ask. Please! Or, if there's truly nobody going to be around, give in and recreate the repo. You'll save yourself so much pain in the long run...

Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#18

Post by antithesis-nl »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #15
antithesis-nl wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, so you've truly screwed up your your personal/small-team repos to the point of requiring poorly-understood command sequences from the Notoriously Reliable Internet more than once? I applaud you for your honesty, but... Really?

Bro, really, self-taught people with a bare minimum understanding of the tools they use are super normal, and when they get into a pit they have to fix it themselves. Although to your point folks would be better served carefully reading the docs / git book than googling a specific solution to their specific error code.

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Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#19

Post by kstrauser »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #15
antithesis-nl wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, so you've truly screwed up your your personal/small-team repos to the point of requiring poorly-understood command sequences from the Notoriously Reliable Internet more than once? I applaud you for your honesty, but... Really?

Bro, really, self-taught people with a bare minimum understanding of the tools they use are super normal, and when they get into a pit they have to fix it themselves. Although to your point folks would be better served carefully reading the docs / git book than googling a specific solution to their specific error code.

For me, the value of things like this is in learning the terminology for what I broke and how to fix it. I'm not going to copy-and-paste advice off the Internet. I never have. It's still super helpful to see "oh, that thing I want to do is called frobnitzing the corple. Now I know what to Google!"

Re: Oh Shit, Git?

#20

Post by antithesis-nl »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #13
antithesis-nl wrote: post #5

Yeah, please don't create sites like this. Just... don't. Any, and I mean any "in case of a Git problem, just do this " recipe is wrong , often in very subtle ways. So, my advice: in case of a Git problem, contact the help channel provided by the organization hosting your Git repository. They'll help you out! And if it's your personal-I-am-truly-the-only-human-using-this repository? Just recreate it, and save yoursel…

I've been using git for at least 6 years now, maybe 10. Sites like this are a great aid to remembering how to deal with certain situations. And yes, I understand what the commands do, but that doesn't mean I always could, or always want to, put together the series of steps from scratch. And also, we self-host our own gitea hosting because we're not getting sucked down by yet another hosting debacle (old enough to hav…

> For git hosting just as much as everything else on line, if you're not paying for it, you're not the customer.

Yeah, lovely trope, but I'm literally talking about organizations hosting their Git repos on a file share here.

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