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Six day and IP address certificate options in 2025

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Re: Six day and IP address certificate options in 2025

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> Our six-day certificates will not include OCSP or CRL URLs. If someone else did this, Mozilla would be threatening to remove them from their trusted roots. IP address certs sound like a security nightmare that could be subverted by BGP hijacking. Which is why most CAs don't issue them. Does accessing the ACME challenge from multiple endpoints adequately prevent this type of attack?

I wonder if they could mandate that IP address certs could only be issued for IPs owned by an AS that has RPKI enabled.

Re: Six day and IP address certificate options in 2025

#13

> Our six-day certificates will not include OCSP or CRL URLs. If someone else did this, Mozilla would be threatening to remove them from their trusted roots. IP address certs sound like a security nightmare that could be subverted by BGP hijacking. Which is why most CAs don't issue them. Does accessing the ACME challenge from multiple endpoints adequately prevent this type of attack?

I wonder if they could mandate that IP address certs could only be issued for IPs owned by an AS that has RPKI enabled.

Last I read, RPKI data gets stripped if it passes through an AS that doesn’t support it.. Has that changed?

Re: Six day and IP address certificate options in 2025

#14

I don't disagree with anything they say here: https://letsencrypt.org/2025/01/16/6-day-and-ip-certs/#short... But... How often do these types of compromises happen? I can't say I've ever seen or heard of it happening.

Impossible to say, as most people probably don't even know that their private key is stolen. I've personally seen it only once on a real certificate revocation. Yet another reason to have shorter lifespan.

Re: Six day and IP address certificate options in 2025

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post #13

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I wonder if they could mandate that IP address certs could only be issued for IPs owned by an AS that has RPKI enabled.

Last I read, RPKI data gets stripped if it passes through an AS that doesn’t support it.. Has that changed?

Uh, not that I know of. You typically run your own validator and configure your router to use it if you care.

Re: Six day and IP address certificate options in 2025

#17
Kinda funny to call the current 90 day certs "long lived". When Let's Encrypted started out more than 10 years ago most certs from major vendors had a 1 year life span. Let's Encrypt was (one of) the first to use drastically shorter life spans, hence all the ACME automation effort.

Re: Six day and IP address certificate options in 2025

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Yes, a forward looking org like Let's Encrypt would have said IPv4 if needed. Here is an example from Cloudflare https://[2606:4700:4700::1111]

Why does the url say one.one.one.one in my browser?

Because it returns a 301 moved permanently with a header of location: https://one.one.one.one/
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