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Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by tombert »

this_user wrote: post #6
postepowanieadm wrote: post #3

I wish I liked GOG, but they ignore Linux users, while Steam's Linux support is the best thing that's happened to Linux gaming.

It's probably outside their scope, and they are not as large and wealthy as Valve that they can afford to invest the necessary resources. But you can use 3rd party launchers like "Heroic" that support GOG and basically give you the same experience as Steam does.

I find that this is also the easiest way to get your games loaded into the SteamOS interface.

On my homemade NixOS SteamOS-like gaming box, I have it boot into the SteamOS interface, and it's pretty and console-like, and it's nice to be able to quickly install my GOG and Epic games and automatically add it to Steam so it can be easily played with that interface.

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by freedomben »

postepowanieadm wrote: post #3

I wish I liked GOG, but they ignore Linux users, while Steam's Linux support is the best thing that's happened to Linux gaming.

What do you mean by they ignore Linux users?

Every game clearly indicates whether it provides a Linux installer so there aren't any surprises there, and even in the cart you'll get a banner message saying something like, "Some of these games don't work on your operating system (Linux)" to avoid surprises.

You can even search the store filtering only for games that provide a Linux installer, which is a control I use regularly. It's disappointing how few games do offer that, but it's getting better everyday (for which I largely credit and thank Valve).

They don't support Linux with GOG Galaxy, but given they maintain compatibility with Lutris and Heroic and others I think I actually prefer that to official GOG Galaxy Support.

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by thesnide »

aeurielesn wrote: post #5
postepowanieadm wrote: post #3

I wish I liked GOG, but they ignore Linux users, while Steam's Linux support is the best thing that's happened to Linux gaming.

As a SteamDeack owner, I'm really looking forward to see AAA games be Linux-first. Windows gaming really needs to stop.

I was thinking that way in the past. But then, the only stable ABI is the win32 one.

The linux kernel one is very stable, but the libs ones isn't.

As soon as the dev ensure and cooperates with wine/proton to make it work nicely, i'm game.

Needing those old libs in linux is rather cumbersome, if at all possible. So having wine doing the translation layer is a really good thing. As it frees the devs to be able to focus on 1 plateform.

I also noted that the switch enabled a lot of linux native ports. That's also a nice side effect.

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by Pooge »

beretguy wrote: post #4

One would think GOG would participate in helping to spread the word about this game preservation petition in EU: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home They could put a permanent banner on their website, I'm sure that would bring in some signatures.

I never heard about this petition... Signed and shared to European friends!

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by boomboomsubban »

freedomben wrote: post #12
postepowanieadm wrote: post #3

I wish I liked GOG, but they ignore Linux users, while Steam's Linux support is the best thing that's happened to Linux gaming.

What do you mean by they ignore Linux users? Every game clearly indicates whether it provides a Linux installer so there aren't any surprises there, and even in the cart you'll get a banner message saying something like, "Some of these games don't work on your operating system (Linux)" to avoid surprises. You can even search the store filtering only for games that provide a Linux installer, which is a control I use r…

>They don't support Linux with GOG Galaxy

This is a bit of an issue.

For example, Dead Cells offers daily challenges and has a few items locked behind completing them. They facilitate these by using the platform's tooling, which means the GOG version uses Galaxy and Linux users can't access it. And as far as I can tell, there's nothing on the site telling you this, troubleshooting the problem took a fair amount of digging.

A small thing, and I still opt for GOG over anything else, but it can be annoying.

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by braiamp »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #15
freedomben wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by they ignore Linux users? Every game clearly indicates whether it provides a Linux installer so there aren't any surprises there, and even in the cart you'll get a banner message saying something like, "Some of these games don't work on your operating system (Linux)" to avoid surprises. You can even search the store filtering only for games that provide a Linux installer, which is a control I use r…

>They don't support Linux with GOG Galaxy This is a bit of an issue. For example, Dead Cells offers daily challenges and has a few items locked behind completing them. They facilitate these by using the platform's tooling, which means the GOG version uses Galaxy and Linux users can't access it. And as far as I can tell, there's nothing on the site telling you this, troubleshooting the problem took a fair amount of di…

Two things, Heroic implements a GOG Galaxy api [1], and second, the challenges work on Windows without Galaxy, the problem is that their build of SDL is not up to date [2]

1: https://github.com/imLinguin/comet 2: https://www.gog.com/forum/dead_cells/daily_challenges_on_lin...

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by ThrowawayB7 »

aeurielesn wrote: post #5
postepowanieadm wrote: post #3

I wish I liked GOG, but they ignore Linux users, while Steam's Linux support is the best thing that's happened to Linux gaming.

As a SteamDeack owner, I'm really looking forward to see AAA games be Linux-first. Windows gaming really needs to stop.

Your Steam Deck provides Windows API emulation so games coded to target Windows will run on it. As a Steam Deck owner, you are perpetuating Windows gaming.

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by braiamp »

thesnide wrote: post #13
aeurielesn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a SteamDeack owner, I'm really looking forward to see AAA games be Linux-first. Windows gaming really needs to stop.

I was thinking that way in the past. But then, the only stable ABI is the win32 one. The linux kernel one is very stable, but the libs ones isn't. As soon as the dev ensure and cooperates with wine/proton to make it work nicely, i'm game. Needing those old libs in linux is rather cumbersome, if at all possible. So having wine doing the translation layer is a really good thing. As it frees the devs to be able to focus…

> the only stable ABI is the win32 one

TBF, that's also true when compared to Windows. The only actually stable ABI in all major OS's are Linux Win32 via Wine.

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by MaxBarraclough »

NegatioN wrote: post #7
postepowanieadm wrote: post #3

I wish I liked GOG, but they ignore Linux users, while Steam's Linux support is the best thing that's happened to Linux gaming.

Not a perfect solution, but you could just use Steam to load games from GOG on Linux though. Thereby getting "the best of both worlds". I have yet to stumble upon any major issue doing this.

What does Steam bring to the table here?

Re: GOG Joins European Federation of Game Archives, Museums & Preservation Projects

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Post by badsectoracula »

this_user wrote: post #6
postepowanieadm wrote: post #3

I wish I liked GOG, but they ignore Linux users, while Steam's Linux support is the best thing that's happened to Linux gaming.

It's probably outside their scope, and they are not as large and wealthy as Valve that they can afford to invest the necessary resources. But you can use 3rd party launchers like "Heroic" that support GOG and basically give you the same experience as Steam does.

FWIW they could piggyback on Valve's open source work and help there like Zoom Platform (DRM-free shop like GOG, unrelated to Zoom) did[0]. ZP is a much smaller company than GOG (pretty much everyone in it, including the CEO, hangs out on their official Discord) and they still got someone to handle that part. I don't use the utility myself but i've seen on Discord that they -try to- provide support for people using it.

[0] https://zoom-platform.sh/

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