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89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Post by xp84 »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #2

As information continues to come to light is it actually concievable that the government is actively avoiding investigations that might put the government's immigration policies into question? That seems to be the unstated in the article. Has the case load dramatically increased, as in were there many more offenses? Were resources cut or reallocated? Did the definition of what counts as a sexual offense or reporting…

The same government which has declared "Asian grooming gangs" to be a 'racist' term for gangs of Pakistani immigrants who committed hundreds of sex crimes against young girls? It's certainly a possibility.

[1] https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/islamophobia-racis...

Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Post by defrost »

Historically sexual offences in the US, the UK, Australia, and elsewhere have been both under reported and under investigated.

There's a potentially misleading graphic mid article: The proportion of violent and sexual offences solved has almost halved since 2017 that shows a change in "percentage of cases with an outcome" from 20% to a bit over 10%.

It's probable (but not clarified) that a good part of that percentage change is due to an increase in reporting of sexual offences.

It should go without saying that this is a sorry state of affairs, it should also be emphasized that this isn't neccessarily evidence of a sudden and sharp decline in the already low rate of convictions.

Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Post by a2tech »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #2

As information continues to come to light is it actually concievable that the government is actively avoiding investigations that might put the government's immigration policies into question? That seems to be the unstated in the article. Has the case load dramatically increased, as in were there many more offenses? Were resources cut or reallocated? Did the definition of what counts as a sexual offense or reporting…

Reading the article linked, then consulting the internet for the most unsolved crimes area, the people in the area are overwhelmingly white and born in the UK. 83% white and 84% born in the UK.

Beacon Road: https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/ct103dg

Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Post by callamdelaney »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #2

As information continues to come to light is it actually concievable that the government is actively avoiding investigations that might put the government's immigration policies into question? That seems to be the unstated in the article. Has the case load dramatically increased, as in were there many more offenses? Were resources cut or reallocated? Did the definition of what counts as a sexual offense or reporting…

I strongly suspect that it's harder to find suspects to charge who have fewer local links and less documentation. I also suspect the CPS is probably failing to bring cases in a level and fair way, why bother when the judge will let them off without jail time because of 'cultural differences'? [0][1]. We know that migrants are 350% more likely to be arrested for sexual crimes than British citizens [2], but that's only some of the picture and the government wont release full figures.

[0] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid...

[1] https://www.deccanherald.com/world/rapist-uk-spared-jail-bei...

[2] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/05/foreign-national...

Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Post by KennyBlanken »

dyauspitr wrote: post #5

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I'm downvoting because you're dredging up the same old tiresome over-reporting / overzealous prosecution claims with no evidence (when there is in fact extensive evidence these sorts of crimes are under-reported.)

Also because you ignored "grievous bodily harm, sexual assault, stalking, rape" to cherry pick harassment.

Also because you claim without evidence that harassment, and a very weak form of harassment, are a significant percentage of cases.

Then you leveraged the fact that most people probably do not understand the legal definitions (and statutory thresholds.)

Then you invented a definition of harassment to suit your argument and the notion that women are trying to report, and police are taking reports of, "someone staring at them on the train."

The legal definition of harassment is what matters:

https://www.local.gov.uk/definition-harassment-abuse-and-int...

Another commenter included the statutory thresholds.

Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Post by callamdelaney »

a2tech wrote: post #15
ltbarcly3 wrote: post #2

As information continues to come to light is it actually concievable that the government is actively avoiding investigations that might put the government's immigration policies into question? That seems to be the unstated in the article. Has the case load dramatically increased, as in were there many more offenses? Were resources cut or reallocated? Did the definition of what counts as a sexual offense or reporting…

Reading the article linked, then consulting the internet for the most unsolved crimes area, the people in the area are overwhelmingly white and born in the UK. 83% white and 84% born in the UK. Beacon Road: https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/ct103dg

The police have been for decades failing to bring cases against none white perpetrators to the same degree as they have with white perpetrators for the fear of looking racist. That's what the controversy is about.

Re: 89% of 2024 sexual offences in England went unsolve

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Post by o11c »

orra wrote: post #12
dyauspitr wrote: post #5

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This comment is being deservedly downvoted. It's misinformation. Here's the statutory threshold for harassment: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/section/1

I don't see a definition or threshold there other than a tautology. Can you quote one into this thread?

And it does seem a reasonable assumption that "harassment" would outnumber the other crimes mentioned. A brief glance at other sources suggests a ratio between 3× and 10×, which is enough to drown out the headline-bait crimes, regardless of whether GP is wrong about the definition.

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