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Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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Re: Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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It's not normal to start dreaming as you fall asleep ? I thought that's how you know you're falling asleep? That you're starting to see the dreams?

You might experience mind-wandering "dreams" while in shallow sleep, but they're not true dreams, and this stage is a brief transitory stage into NREM sleep, during which no dreams happen.

Re: Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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sometimes when sleeping or falling asleep i "wake up" or so. Basically im awake but i start having hallucinations about my surroundings, kind of like the description of sleep paralysis but i can move. I only have experienced sleep paralysis twice in my life so i wouldn't really know.

But hallucinations while semi sleep are wild, idk if it is normal, i haven't really considered before

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This is fascinating. Three years ago, after recovering from COVID, along with many long haul symptoms I developed several similar to but still distinct from narcolepsy. Even now as the CFS-like symptoms have mostly faded, the narcoleptic symptoms are still present. Unfortunately I've not been able to get a positive diagnosis of any sort because it's atypical. There are two main symptoms I experience. First is that, o…

Wow I'm sorry to hear that, but it's also refreshing to hear from someone with a similar experience.

> just a more extreme case of the first is a complete inability to wake up.

> everything feels so exceptionally tired and heavy that I feel like I don't have the strength to move anything, even to turn my head.

I've tried to describe this feeling to others, but it's difficult. I call it my "death sleep," not to be dramatic, but because it's like waking from the deepest, most complete unconsciousness I can imagine. The heaviness in my body and chest make it feel a burden even to keep breathing; so I fall back asleep quickly.

After months of this, and visits with many specialists including a cardiologist, endocrinologist, and pulmonologist, an MSLT [1] gave the diagnosis of Idiopathic Hypersomnia [2, 3], which makes me laugh when you break it down: ("idio" = Unknown, "pathic" = Cause, "hyper" = Very, "somnia" = Sleep).

That diagnosis, while frustratingly vague, has at least allowed me to be prescribed medication that has made a big difference in my day-to-day alertness.

[1]: https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/sleep/narc... [2]: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypersomnia/s... [3]: https://www.hypersomniafoundation.org/ih/

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I hope there's serious research on this to find out if it works for everyone and if not, whether there are alternative strategies:

> Whenever you are in the throws of a cataplectic attack, lying motionless and completely helpless, focus all your energy into "finding" the tip of your index finger (either one will do). Now, just try to wiggle it around in a small circle. [--] The wrist and forearm will follow, then the whole arm, and soon you'll unlock the rest of your body.

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I hope there's serious research on this to find out if it works for everyone and if not, whether there are alternative strategies: > Whenever you are in the throws of a cataplectic attack, lying motionless and completely helpless, focus all your energy into "finding" the tip of your index finger (either one will do). Now, just try to wiggle it around in a small circle. [--] The wrist and forearm will follow, then the…

I don't think I have narcolepsy but I discovered that whenever I have a really bad dream and I start to be aware of it being a dream, yet not able to gain control over my body and wake up, focusing moving just my fingers and squeezing my hands helpa me regain that control of my body and eventually wake up.

Re: Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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(N1 over here aswell! Although mine came from some unfortunate circumstances rather than from birth ) Pleasantly surprised to find an article/blog on narcolepsy on HN. All of the described experiences sound familiar, except the vivid dreaming while awake. Sleep paralysis, been there, always having dreams when asleep, yup (although for me MOST dreams are also lucid, which can get kind of get tiring, as I feel like I d…

I recently got diagnosed but i somehow managed to be very productive all the way until my 30s. I had a spinal injury and turned it up 10x and its ruining my life. Any advice? The medication doesn’t come close to keeping me awake and writing code… do i just keep taking more amphetamines and caffeine until i can? I exercise, eat well etc etc

Re: Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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This is fascinating. Three years ago, after recovering from COVID, along with many long haul symptoms I developed several similar to but still distinct from narcolepsy. Even now as the CFS-like symptoms have mostly faded, the narcoleptic symptoms are still present. Unfortunately I've not been able to get a positive diagnosis of any sort because it's atypical. There are two main symptoms I experience. First is that, o…

Wow I'm sorry to hear that, but it's also refreshing to hear from someone with a similar experience. > just a more extreme case of the first is a complete inability to wake up. > everything feels so exceptionally tired and heavy that I feel like I don't have the strength to move anything, even to turn my head. I've tried to describe this feeling to others, but it's difficult. I call it my "death sleep," not to be dra…

What are you prescribed? Similar situation; still trying to find the right meds.

Re: Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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I'm not diagnosed, but I always have REM before falling asleep. It's how I know I'm about to call sleep when laying in bed. I love the visualizations before bed. I also routinely take 10m nap between 10-12 every day. Always hit REM then too.

When i went through the diagnoses process I was informed that this condition truly exists in a spectrum and what may be a minor dot point to your life one day can later shift into something more disruptive (or nothing at all). You should see someone if those naps start multiplying

Re: Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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My brother has narcolepsy. It is interesting how it presents itself in different people. I have never seen my brother fall asleep while occupied with something (walking, talking...) but I have seen him fall asleep so many times when he is not. The moment he gets in a car and it starts driving he falls asleep and very deeply. He would fall asleep in class all the time. The first time i really saw his narcolepsy expressed was during a daytime dinner. He had just had a big meal and while we were all sitting and talking, he just kinda nodded off.

The sad part is he has felt quite embarrassed by all this growing up. These are not dangerous situations, but it just feels awkward for a teenager. He also talks and walk in his sleep. Even worse is that no one believed him when he suggested he might have narcolepsy. Our mom is a doctor but figured he was just tired like all young, growing boys. It took a brain scan to get it sorted.

He's been prescribed Ritalin or something similar, but manages without.

Re: Narcolepsy is weird but I didn't notice

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This is fascinating. Three years ago, after recovering from COVID, along with many long haul symptoms I developed several similar to but still distinct from narcolepsy. Even now as the CFS-like symptoms have mostly faded, the narcoleptic symptoms are still present. Unfortunately I've not been able to get a positive diagnosis of any sort because it's atypical. There are two main symptoms I experience. First is that, o…

It sounds different from what I’ve been dealing with, but I got diagnosed with sleep apnea in 2023 and getting on a cpap has made a world of difference to my health and energy levels, including making my chronic migraines go away basically completely since starting cpap therapy. I am simply writing this in the hopes that possibly exploring this diagnosis might help you. I used to often wake up exhausted and feeling like I’d been hit by a truck or as though I had a bad hangover. This also no longer happens to me.
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