Looks like most of the improvement is only going to come when DLSS4 is in use and its generating most of the frame for Ray Tracing and then also generating 3 predicted frames. When you use all that AI hardware then its maybe 2x, but I do wonder how much fundamental rasterisation + shaders performance gain there is in this generation in practice on the majority of actual games.
Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
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#12It's a shame to see they max out at just 32GB, for that price in 2025 you'd be hoping for a lot more, especially with Apple Silicon - while not nearly as fast - being very usable with 128GB+ for LLMs for $6-7k USD (comes with a free laptop too ;))
Apple Silicons architecture is better for running huge AI models but much worse for just about anything else that you'd want to run on a GPU, bandwidth is far more important in most other applications.
That's not even close, the M4 Max 12C has less than a third of the 5090s memory throughput and the 10C version has less than a quarter. The M4 Ultra should trade blows with the 4090 but it'll still fall well short of the 5090.
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#14Even though they are all marketed as gaming cards, Nvidia is now very clearly differentiating between 5070/5070 Ti/5080 for mid-high end gaming and 5090 for consumer/entry-level AI. The gap between xx80 and xx90 is going to be too wide for regular gamers to cross this generation.
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#15It's a shame to see they max out at just 32GB, for that price in 2025 you'd be hoping for a lot more, especially with Apple Silicon - while not nearly as fast - being very usable with 128GB+ for LLMs for $6-7k USD (comes with a free laptop too ;))
Apple Silicons architecture is better for running huge AI models but much worse for just about anything else that you'd want to run on a GPU, bandwidth is far more important in most other applications. That's not even close, the M4 Max 12C has less than a third of the 5090s memory throughput and the 10C version has less than a quarter. The M4 Ultra should trade blows with the 4090 but it'll still fall well short of t…
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#16Did they discontinue Titan series for good?
Last titan was released 2018.... 7 years ago.
They may resurrect it at some stage, but at this stage yes.
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#17Looks like most of the improvement is only going to come when DLSS4 is in use and its generating most of the frame for Ray Tracing and then also generating 3 predicted frames. When you use all that AI hardware then its maybe 2x, but I do wonder how much fundamental rasterisation + shaders performance gain there is in this generation in practice on the majority of actual games.
Yeah I’m not holding my breath if they aren’t advertising it.
I’m expecting a minor bump that will look less impressive if you compare it to watts, these things are hungry.
It’s hard to get excited when most of the gains will be limited to a few new showcase AAA releases and maybe an update to a couple of your favourites if your lucky.
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#18I will be astonished if I'll be able to get a 5090 due to availability. The 5080's comparative lack of memory is a buzzkill -- 16 GB seems like it's going to be a limiting factor for 4k gaming. Does anyone know what these might cost in the US after the rumored tariffs?
4k gaming is dumb.
I watched a LTT video that came out today where Linus said he primarily uses gaming monitors and doesn't mess with 4k.
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#19I will be astonished if I'll be able to get a 5090 due to availability. The 5080's comparative lack of memory is a buzzkill -- 16 GB seems like it's going to be a limiting factor for 4k gaming. Does anyone know what these might cost in the US after the rumored tariffs?
Honestly, with how fast memory is being consumed nowadays and the increased focus on frame generation/interpolation vs “full frames”, I’ll keep my 3090 a little longer instead of upgrading to a 5080 or 5090. It’s not the fastest, but it’s a solid card even in 2025 for 1440p RT gaming on a VRR display, and the memory lets me tinker with LLMs without breaking a sweat.
If DLSS4 and “MOAR POWAH” are the only things on offer versus my 3090, it’s a hard pass. I need efficiency, not a bigger TDP.
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#2032GB of GDDR7 at 1.8TB/sec for $2000, best of luck to the gamers trying to buy one of those while AI people are buying them by the truckload. Presumably the pro hardware based on the same silicon will have 64GB, they usually double whatever the gaming cards have.
At what point do we stop calling them graphics cards?