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Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

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Post by seaofliberty »

behnamoh wrote: post #10
seaofliberty wrote: post #9

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He tried so much to look funny but it didn't look good on him. And at one point he said 4090 is like taking home an equivalent of a $10,000 PC, and he expected the crowd to clap, but no one, literally no one, clapped. Because everyone knows GeForce prices have been monopoly prices for years and 4090 is intentionally crippled by nvidia drivers to be less capable than it really is (see George Hotz in-depth analysis).

Haha. So true. I am writing a program to draw facial geometry and similarity between him and Jackie Chan is too good to be true.

Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

#12

Post by jiggawatts »

behnamoh wrote: post #8
magicalhippo wrote: post #7

AMD barely mentioned their next-gen GPUs, NVIDIA came out swinging right from the start. AMD announced two new models which by their own cryptic slide wouldn't even compete with their current top-end. Then NVIDIA came and announced a 4090-performance GPU for $549... If that's not just hot hair from NVIDIA, I totally get the business decision from AMD but man, would love some more competition in the higher end.

AMD has strategically decided to abandon the enthusiasts market [0]. Really sad that nvidia's monopoly has got solidified even further. That's one of the reasons I contribute to Apple's MLX instead of CUDA. 0: https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/amd-announces-new-ra... Update: typical HN behavior. someone is downvoting all my comments one by one...

Someone with a lot of NVIDIA shares, no doubt…

Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

#13

Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

seaofliberty wrote: post #11
behnamoh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He tried so much to look funny but it didn't look good on him. And at one point he said 4090 is like taking home an equivalent of a $10,000 PC, and he expected the crowd to clap, but no one, literally no one, clapped. Because everyone knows GeForce prices have been monopoly prices for years and 4090 is intentionally crippled by nvidia drivers to be less capable than it really is (see George Hotz in-depth analysis).

Haha. So true. I am writing a program to draw facial geometry and similarity between him and Jackie Chan is too good to be true.

How is that relevant to anything at all?

Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

#14

Post by Permik »

magicalhippo wrote: post #7

AMD barely mentioned their next-gen GPUs, NVIDIA came out swinging right from the start. AMD announced two new models which by their own cryptic slide wouldn't even compete with their current top-end. Then NVIDIA came and announced a 4090-performance GPU for $549... If that's not just hot hair from NVIDIA, I totally get the business decision from AMD but man, would love some more competition in the higher end.

It depends totally how you define "hot air" in this instance. Later in the keynote there's a mention how the $549 card achieves the 4090-like rendering performance with DLSS, i.e. not with raw graphics, number crunching horsepower.

Personally? It's a no for me dawg, DLSS unfortunately doesn't actually replace the need for the raw GPGPU crunch.

For the average layman and a consumer? Nvidia will be selling those GPU's like hotcakes.

Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

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Post by nomel »

magicalhippo wrote: post #7

AMD barely mentioned their next-gen GPUs, NVIDIA came out swinging right from the start. AMD announced two new models which by their own cryptic slide wouldn't even compete with their current top-end. Then NVIDIA came and announced a 4090-performance GPU for $549... If that's not just hot hair from NVIDIA, I totally get the business decision from AMD but man, would love some more competition in the higher end.

> Then NVIDIA came and announced a 4090-performance GPU for $549

Never trust vendor performance claims (these specifically rely on 3x frame generation), and never assume cards will be available at MSRP.

Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

#17

Post by blitzar »

jiggawatts wrote: post #12
behnamoh wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AMD has strategically decided to abandon the enthusiasts market [0]. Really sad that nvidia's monopoly has got solidified even further. That's one of the reasons I contribute to Apple's MLX instead of CUDA. 0: https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/amd-announces-new-ra... Update: typical HN behavior. someone is downvoting all my comments one by one...

Someone with a lot of NVIDIA shares, no doubt…

More likely someone holding the AMD bag

edit: confirmed.

Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

#18

Post by Jach »

behnamoh wrote: post #10
seaofliberty wrote: post #9

[flagged]

He tried so much to look funny but it didn't look good on him. And at one point he said 4090 is like taking home an equivalent of a $10,000 PC, and he expected the crowd to clap, but no one, literally no one, clapped. Because everyone knows GeForce prices have been monopoly prices for years and 4090 is intentionally crippled by nvidia drivers to be less capable than it really is (see George Hotz in-depth analysis).

To me it seemed like he tried to justify its price as if it were a small part of a $10k setup with lots of RGB lighting but for some reason mainly for watching movies. No one has one just for watching movies, and it's likely more than the rest of the gaming PC build combined. Monitor possibly included.

Re: Jensen Huang keynote at CES 2025 [video]

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Post by moogly »

Jach wrote: post #18
behnamoh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He tried so much to look funny but it didn't look good on him. And at one point he said 4090 is like taking home an equivalent of a $10,000 PC, and he expected the crowd to clap, but no one, literally no one, clapped. Because everyone knows GeForce prices have been monopoly prices for years and 4090 is intentionally crippled by nvidia drivers to be less capable than it really is (see George Hotz in-depth analysis).

To me it seemed like he tried to justify its price as if it were a small part of a $10k setup with lots of RGB lighting but for some reason mainly for watching movies. No one has one just for watching movies, and it's likely more than the rest of the gaming PC build combined. Monitor possibly included.

Someone should tell Mr. Huang that it's not 20 years ago and that their products now cost 2x the amount of all other components in that "pc entertainment system control center" combined. He seems to not know, out-of-touch billionaire as he is.
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