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Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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Post by racl101 »

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I was just arguing with someone about this over the holidays when they could not believe I would pass up on a Tesla even if it was free.

Forget about Elon being and the company culture, there's practical reasons for me not wanting to own one of these even though I could afford one.

Living in cold Canadian province, there would be no upside to owning one of these. Just more hassle. If given one I'd sell it probably for less than the market value just so I can get a more practical hybrid or gas guzzler car.

That's not to say that there aren't other Teslas around here, but for me it just would not be worth the hassle.

Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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Post by vdupras »

sidcool wrote: post #4

Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?

Isn't it basically the only logical conclusion at this point?

If you don't like Musk, you don't like Tesla.

If you like Musk, you believe what he says, and what he's been saying during his ascension to the White House is that EVs are trash. Aren't Teslas EVs?

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Post by bilvar »

vdupras wrote: post #12
sidcool wrote: post #4

Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?

Isn't it basically the only logical conclusion at this point? If you don't like Musk, you don't like Tesla. If you like Musk, you believe what he says, and what he's been saying during his ascension to the White House is that EVs are trash. Aren't Teslas EVs?

When did Musk say that EVs are trash?

Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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Post by davidw »

I'm nearly 50. I'm used to the idea of businesses owners having different politics than my own, but mostly that was the sort of self-interested "I'm wealthy and I think wealthy people should pay fewer taxes and their businesses should be subject to fewer regulations" sorts of things. You can disagree without thinking they're necessarily Bad People or worthy of boycotting their businesses. Indeed, it's the hallmark of a healthy democracy that we can agree to disagree about various aspects of our society.

It's pretty rare to see, on the other hand, someone insert themselves into politics quite so loudly, and in such an extreme way. A lot of what we've seen from the head of that company in the past few years is playing footsie (and sometimes not very subtly) with outright anti-semitism and white supremacy.

I'm not ok with that.

Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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Post by avgDev »

It is only going to get worse for Tesla.

Musk went all in extreme right-wing. Even though most "green" buyers are left leaning.

I started disliking Musk after his pedo comments in regards to the cave rescuers. The smart/geeky/techy guy is a facade.

I mainly would not consider Tesla because of Musk. The poor build quality just reinforces that stance.

Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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Post by aerodog »

davidw wrote: post #14

I'm nearly 50. I'm used to the idea of businesses owners having different politics than my own, but mostly that was the sort of self-interested "I'm wealthy and I think wealthy people should pay fewer taxes and their businesses should be subject to fewer regulations" sorts of things. You can disagree without thinking they're necessarily Bad People or worthy of boycotting their businesses. Indeed, it's the hallmark of…

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Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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Post by jayd16 »

sidcool wrote: post #4

Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?

As the face of the company, Elon continues to make it political. As a Tesla owner myself I'm annoyed by his politics, both personal and as it relates to labor and manufacturing.

The FSD promises continue to underwhelm. The prices have not gone down. I personally wish Carplay/Android Auto were supported. Cybertrucks are polarizing stylistically.

Lots of reasons to not want a Tesla these days. Fewer and fewer reasons to root for them.

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