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Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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Post by bb88 »

sbuk wrote: post #6
OutOfHere wrote: post #5

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

> The users there have a major case of groupthink Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

Isn't that a product of the industry? Python has one groupthink, Golang another.

Martin Fowler's company is named "Thoughtworks". I guess he's trying to control the way we think about stuff?

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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Post by bb88 »

pierrec wrote: post #10
sbuk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The users there have a major case of groupthink Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

I don't know about lobsters, but every time I see an opinion posted on HN, it seems to get immediately followed by a contrary opinion. I've also changed the settings so the website no longer appears orange, but I'm probably still in the bubble anyways.

Sometimes I post a comment to agree with something someone has written. Like here.

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Post by krapp »

sbuk wrote: post #6
OutOfHere wrote: post #5

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

> The users there have a major case of groupthink Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

Lobsters is trying to do the same thing as Hacker News - avoid the Eternal September effect at all costs. It just has more direct and overt methods of maintaining and enforcing its culture than here, and that starts with barring the door against the rabble.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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Post by MisterTea »

pierrec wrote: post #10
sbuk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The users there have a major case of groupthink Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

I don't know about lobsters, but every time I see an opinion posted on HN, it seems to get immediately followed by a contrary opinion. I've also changed the settings so the website no longer appears orange, but I'm probably still in the bubble anyways.

I changed the color as a quick tell for when I'm logged in.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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Post by linhns »

OutOfHere wrote: post #5

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

These are considered features of lobsters, since to even post there, you have to be invited.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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Post by OutOfHere »

sbuk wrote: post #6
OutOfHere wrote: post #5

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

> The users there have a major case of groupthink Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

The issue is much worse on Lobsters because of its registration policy which altogether prohibits anonymous registration and thereby a diversity of voices. People are likely to recommend those who think like them (for a new account) rather than ones who think differently.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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Post by OutOfHere »

krapp wrote: post #13
sbuk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The users there have a major case of groupthink Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

Lobsters is trying to do the same thing as Hacker News - avoid the Eternal September effect at all costs. It just has more direct and overt methods of maintaining and enforcing its culture than here, and that starts with barring the door against the rabble.

That's something that Slashdot does by limiting registrations. In contrast, by disallowing anonymous registrations (without a recommendation), Lobsters actively seeks out those who don't think differently at all, perpetuating its closed-mindedness.

Re: Lobste.rs/Hacker News links overlap

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

sbuk wrote: post #6
OutOfHere wrote: post #5

I don't advise posting to Lobsters for these reasons: 1. The mods there can "steal" your post and any credit for it, reassigning its authorship to one of their friends. This happens more often than you would think. 2. The users there have a major case of groupthink, much worse than us here, considering they don't even allow outsiders to register it they're not recommended by someone on the inside. Inbred is the label…

> The users there have a major case of groupthink Isn’t that a common feature of most forums? The orange site, in particular, isn’t generally regarded outside of its own bubble as a bastion of independent thought…

I find the Lobsters opinion bubble to be much narrower than HN.

HN these days definitely has its share of meme bubble opinions (like reading the comments on any social media thread), but Lobsters is narrow enough that I can often predict all the comments to a post just based on reading its contents myself. This makes the site pretty boring because if it's so easily to mentally simulate the responses, I may as well just ignore the comments. Tech link aggregators usually source links from all the same places (Mastodon, Bluesky, Twitter, RSS feeds) that I already do so Lobsters' value on top is minimal.

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