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The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by lemming »

I saw Bryan recently on a Magnus Midtbo episode on YouTube. In that they discussed that his body fat had been extremely low, and he had gone up to around 10% subsequently on medical advice, i.e. that his body fat had previously reduced to unhealthy levels. 10% is low, but it's not what he looks like in the photos on this article, and it should be sustainable long term with some effort. He says on his website under his current protocol that he eats 2,250 calories a day (10% deficit from RDA), which doesn't sound crazy to me. I mean, it's not what normal people do but he's not doing what normal people do by definition, and at least what he's eating doesn't seem out into crazy unhealthy territory to me.

He definitely came across as a little eccentric in the video, but very enthusiastic about the project, I found it pretty charming and would definitely find it pretty interesting to chat to him I think.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by maz1b »

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no?

As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive Macbooks/Mac studios, running shoes, and much more.

The whole world would see such titan sized improvements in GDP along with personal lives. Men and women would be happier if everyone strove to be fit, "younger" (with respect to wellness and fitness) and in better shape, not to mention that would translate to very real economic benefit in every country.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by tom_ »

Feels like a bit more body fat would suit him a lot better. The lean look is fine if you're under 25, but at some point you have to admit that it's over.

> the way he looked while taking “TRT” looked nothing like a “testosterone replacement dose” but rather like a (mild?) steroid cycle

This seems to be common with TRT takers, who tend to have the physique (or some slightly strange-looking approxmation thereof) of a man 10 years younger. I guess it's not supposed to give you an abnormally high testosterone level, but you'll get that level consistently and reliably, regardless of mood or external events. Can't get that when you rely on your body to do it itself! It all adds up!

A TRT dose set based on the population average might also prove usefully higher than your body is tuned for too. And I expect you can just say that you're not feeling it, and they'll give you a bit more.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by voisin »

tom_ wrote: post #13

Feels like a bit more body fat would suit him a lot better. The lean look is fine if you're under 25, but at some point you have to admit that it's over. > the way he looked while taking “TRT” looked nothing like a “testosterone replacement dose” but rather like a (mild?) steroid cycle This seems to be common with TRT takers, who tend to have the physique (or some slightly strange-looking approxmation thereof) of a m…

> but at some point you have to admit that it's over

I am confused by what you mean. Being lean should be a goal throughout life, no?

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by Mistletoe »

maz1b wrote: post #12

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

I don’t think you understand how down the rabbit hole this guy goes.

> Bryan Johnson’s supplements list includes more than 100 compounds taken as powders, tablets, and capsules, designed to support different aspects of his health.

This is an insane thing to do and I have delved deeply into supplements myself and it is stunning how hard it is to find evidence that any of them do anything beneficial long term.

This matches me own experience and daily diary of trying things, rating how I feel, bloodwork, etc. The only thing I’ve ever found beneficial long term is testosterone, sunlight, and exercise.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by slibhb »

> Also, in the interviews I have seen of him, his blinking frequency is quite high, presumably because he is so low in body fat that his lacrimal ducts cannot manufacture the lipid portion of tear fluid properly.

Bryan Johnson is one weird dude and I would bet against his regimen's effectiveness. But stuff like this is just silly and makes me doubt the rest of this post.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by groby_b »

maz1b wrote: post #12

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

Given where his body fat and his core body temperature is these days, let's withhold judgment a bit before we crow about "titan sized improvements in GDP".

He's running an n=1 experiment well out of established parameters, and the outcome is far from guaranteed.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by mynegation »

slibhb wrote: post #16

> Also, in the interviews I have seen of him, his blinking frequency is quite high, presumably because he is so low in body fat that his lacrimal ducts cannot manufacture the lipid portion of tear fluid properly. Bryan Johnson is one weird dude and I would bet against his regimen's effectiveness. But stuff like this is just silly and makes me doubt the rest of this post.

Are you an MD like the author? And even if not - what is your rebuttal here?

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by superb_dev »

maz1b wrote: post #12

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

The author's point is that these extremes aren't healthy and fit.
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