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"Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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That sucks. I was literally trying to download some files into kiwix and it didn't work.

Some of the files they host are pretty big, so maybe Hetzner just decided it wasn't worth hosting any more.

I've been using Hetzner for years though and never had an issue. But I don't get anywhere close to the 20TB traffic limit.

This reminds me that I should set up some backups though.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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This thread is not really interesting because we don’t have the Hetzner’s side of the story.

The lack of response from Hetzner is part of what does make it interesting.

It makes it intriguing, not interesting.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

#14
Most of the times you hear people complaining about Hetzner shutting down someone's servers, it's because they were hosting content going against their ToC or similar.

But this seems to be about Kiwix (which in short is "offline Wikipedia" in various ways) and doesn't seem to be about questionable content in any way.

Eventually I guess we'll get Hetzner's perspective on this, as they tend to start writing publicly about issues once the other side starts writing publicly about it as well.

Personally I've been a happy user of Hetzner for many years, with no issues that weren't my own doing. But reading about people having their servers deleted in the middle of the night on a Sunday (Berlin time) and all data wiped immediately, with no recurse, does sound a bit aggressive. Luckily it seems like both me and Kiwix has mirrors for the data we care about.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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also negative experiences here. if they get a copyright-violation request from someone, they won't contact you about it. they'll just take your server down immediately and ask you to respond. obviously thats not a sane course of action and i cannot recommend using them for any kind of production systems. i am always angry if i see articles about them here on HN because such a vendor should be blacklisted and not prom…

"Hetzner" isn't a monolith. I have a feeling these things depend on which country your servers are in.

f.ex. the situation with egress costing money in the US, but it's free on all EU location.s

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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also negative experiences here. if they get a copyright-violation request from someone, they won't contact you about it. they'll just take your server down immediately and ask you to respond. obviously thats not a sane course of action and i cannot recommend using them for any kind of production systems. i am always angry if i see articles about them here on HN because such a vendor should be blacklisted and not prom…

Tbh this is the most German shit. Germany has borderline neurotic copyright laws, so likely they are doing this to cover their asses legally. Still insane that they don't even notify you!!

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

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also negative experiences here. if they get a copyright-violation request from someone, they won't contact you about it. they'll just take your server down immediately and ask you to respond. obviously thats not a sane course of action and i cannot recommend using them for any kind of production systems. i am always angry if i see articles about them here on HN because such a vendor should be blacklisted and not prom…

Not my experience as well. They have previously given me 24 hours to respond, or they will remove the server.

Re: "Hetzner decided to cancel our account and terminate all servers"

#19
Whenever I ask a CTO if they have a backup (or plan-B) they say we're on AWS, we backup there and they will never go down as a company. And then I ask them what they do when their account gets shut (e.g. because they are selling something bad on Amazon and have the same phone number as the company account?) Or the instance some years ago where GCP closed because someone had wrongly classified image on their drive?

You should have all you backups in a different location and terraform tested with a different cloud provider, otherwise you're risking the company.

[Edit] Where I come from: That doesn't say anything about Hetzner, I have been with them for 20+ years, they have stopped individual servers in that time frame, but haven't cancelled my whole account.

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