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How well does music predict your politics?

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Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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Yet another example of a fallacy of representing the political spectrum in one dimension. People are being conditioned to thinking in terms of left-right, good-bad, democrats-republicans; instead of in terms of real issues. While entertaining, this article adds nothing of value to the political discussion.

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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Metal fans could save us all from a two-party system. Hmm... I'm a huge metal fan myself, and very much an anarcho-capitalist / libertarian / voluntaryist / $whatever_term_you_prefer. But, to be honest, I haven't really noticed much correlation between a preference for metal, and 3rd party political affiliation, at least among my metal loving friends. If anything, I'd say that metalheads perhaps run towards "politica…

It is something I have noticed too though. That's why I personally didn't find it very surprising that they are hardest to classify.

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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> Artists whose fans are most correlated to Republican > Artists whose fans are most correlated to Democrat I'm French. I have never heard of the first eight artists listed as Republican friendly; I know and am familiar with most artists in the Democrat list (all but two). Do "Republican artists" target something very American that doesn't appeal to an international audience?

All those artists are part of a genre we in America call "country music". It is basically the modern, more pop-like evolution of the music of artists like Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline, Hank Williams (senior), and Willie Nelson. And if you haven't heard of those artists, you should check them out. If you're interested, the best modern country artist (in my opinion at least) is someone not appearing on the list: Brad Paisl…

Oh, ok. I know and love Johnny Cash, Tammy Wynette et al. I don't know existing country artists.

I would guess this "music analysis" is in fact a proxy for other predictors such as location (inland / coastal regions) and age, no?

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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> Artists whose fans are most correlated to Republican > Artists whose fans are most correlated to Democrat I'm French. I have never heard of the first eight artists listed as Republican friendly; I know and am familiar with most artists in the Democrat list (all but two). Do "Republican artists" target something very American that doesn't appeal to an international audience?

Country music / nationalism / "America! Fuck yeah!"

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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post #4

> Artists whose fans are most correlated to Republican > Artists whose fans are most correlated to Democrat I'm French. I have never heard of the first eight artists listed as Republican friendly; I know and am familiar with most artists in the Democrat list (all but two). Do "Republican artists" target something very American that doesn't appeal to an international audience?

Several others have identified country music. As an American, this a totally boring, expected result. Country music stars headline right leaning benefit concerts, conventions, radio shows, and TV shows.

And there's a natural alignment between country music and conservatism: both celebrate certain attitudes epitomized by the cowboy persona (strong, independent, hard working, etc.) while simultaneously trying to forget that those pesky intellectuals, liberals, foreigners, and minorities even exist. In case you think that last comment is unfair take a quick peek at the white/black ratio of those top 10 artists: 10/0 for Republican, 4/6 for Democrat.

Unsurprisingly, country music finds most of its popularity in the US, Canada, and Australia. Interestingly, however, there has been a country music festival in France for over 20 years, Country Rendez-Vous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_music#Other_internation...

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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post #11

Yet another example of a fallacy of representing the political spectrum in one dimension. People are being conditioned to thinking in terms of left-right, good-bad, democrats-republicans; instead of in terms of real issues. While entertaining, this article adds nothing of value to the political discussion.

Rather, its yet another example of people using a single, readily identifiable feature to classify a data set.

It's not an article about politics. It's an article about binary classifiers.

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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Pretty predicible - modern country music is pretty much pandering to right-wing values. It's not really any different than rap - it's just a matter of who your demo is; inner city black youth with baseball hats or middle-American farm boys with cowboy hats. Either way, it's music marketed toward marginalized, uneducated people that need to cling to some sort of social identity to feel empowered.

...why do YOU know so many people that "like all music but rap and country"? We're well-to-do, educated, white boys.

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

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post #15
post #4

> Artists whose fans are most correlated to Republican > Artists whose fans are most correlated to Democrat I'm French. I have never heard of the first eight artists listed as Republican friendly; I know and am familiar with most artists in the Democrat list (all but two). Do "Republican artists" target something very American that doesn't appeal to an international audience?

Several others have identified country music. As an American, this a totally boring, expected result. Country music stars headline right leaning benefit concerts, conventions, radio shows, and TV shows. And there's a natural alignment between country music and conservatism: both celebrate certain attitudes epitomized by the cowboy persona (strong, independent, hard working, etc.) while simultaneously trying to forget…

both celebrate certain attitudes epitomized by the cowboy persona (strong, independent, hard working, etc.) while simultaneously trying to forget that those pesky intellectuals, liberals, foreigners, and minorities even exist.

Meh... as much as I don't care for a lot of what passes for "conservatism" these days, one has to be fair and say that being conservative doesn't preclude you from being an intellectual, a foreigner, or a minority. Yes, the stereotype is that intellectuals lean left, and that minorities lean left, but it's hardly that black and white (no pun intended).

Re: How well does music predict your politics?

#20
Pretty predicible - modern country music is pretty much pandering to right-wing values. It's not really any different than rap - it's just a matter of who your demo is; inner city black youth with baseball hats or middle-American farm boys with cowboy hats. Either way, it's music marketed toward marginalized, uneducated people that need to cling to some sort of social identity to feel empowered.

...why do YOU know so many people that "like all music but rap and country"? We're well-to-do, educated, white boys.

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