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Fucking Tired of AI

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Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#11
I'm tired of AI melodrama. The Singularity(TM) is not near; we will see at least one more AI winter first. Large language models are neat and useful, but they're not close to AGI. Jobs will be lost, but many companies who cut too many people will get bitten by hallucinations and other problems and will quietly rehire.

I think that AGI is inevitable, but I don't think it will arrive before 2050.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#12
You have to realize you are part of the problem. The old traditional forums didn't die because of AI but because you stopped contributing to them. There is a reason HN is still alive. If you want to maintain the "old" web, you have to keep browsing and interacting with the old web. I keep an old fashioned website (https://omarabid.com) and there are barely any viewers. Google completely de-ranked the site for no reason and it's almost impossible to get your articles trending on social media these days if you are not "whoring" your points of something like that.

If you make a small list of such sites, forums, podcasts, you'll have save and maintain the last few corners that exist.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#13
I create real things for real people, which I meet in the real world. I retreat to the private, curated cozyweb where the content is manually and lovingly created. I trust the curation of real people over algorithms.

If the world is about to become a loud miasma of AI nonsense, I’ll just build thicker walls around the human-built and human-curated parts. It’s just damn unfortunate for those outside those walls. There will be very few public spaces left if they are prey to automated grift, but we can still make the private ones nice and pleasant.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#14
post #12

You have to realize you are part of the problem. The old traditional forums didn't die because of AI but because you stopped contributing to them. There is a reason HN is still alive. If you want to maintain the "old" web, you have to keep browsing and interacting with the old web. I keep an old fashioned website ( https://omarabid.com ) and there are barely any viewers. Google completely de-ranked the site for no re…

> There is a reason HN is still alive.

Dang’s salary?

HN is the only forum I can think of where not only are the economic incentives between users and owners mostly aligned but there’s a paid moderator who is part of the community (as opposed to the faceless moderation teams of Twitter/Facebook/etc).

All the forums I loved died mostly because of owners shutting them down or giving up on moderation but YMMV

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#15
It's funny how so many people are in your situation about to lose it over AI while I'm sitting here waiting for AI/LLMs to affect my life..like..at all. I seriously can't think of one major experience, positive or negative, that I have with AI in my day to day life.

> being bombarded with tons of AI-written books, pornography, music, video, audio, images

I don't come across any of these unless I am very actively looking for them.

> try googling any historical figure and you'll find some bullshit AI generated image of them likely before the actual one.

I just tried, and there wasn't a single AI generated result in the top 5 pages.

I don't go on Twitter/X. I only subscribe to Reddit communities that I am genuinely interested in and which stay spam free. I frequent other sites like HN that have a very high ratio of signal to noise. I don't waste time on garbage SEO-bait blogs.

I'm not even putting in that much effort to have a sane online experience. If I can do it, so can you.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#16
Everything changes, nothing is forever. It's a hard truth, but the more capable you are of accepting and rolling with it, the better your life will be. I've heard it said that the tagline for the theory of evolution should really be "survival of the most adaptable" , and I think that applies at every level, from the species, to the culture, to the subculture, to the family, and finally, the individual.

If the internet you knew and loved is gone, mourn it, move on, find a new thing to love. Or create it.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#17
I don't find this at all, and I just searched for images of Ben Franklin and MLK, and they seemed fine.

I spent a lot of today messing around connecting Anthropic's MCP system to Emacs and while the LLM's tendency to overwrite my code with its own was annoying, it was fascinating to play with it.

I spent a lot of the early days of the Internet arguing with people who thought it was ruining everything, with terrible art, and disgusting spam, and pervasive anonymity. Maybe they were right: but I realised that for me the better conversations, and better progress, were to be had with those who explored those boundaries to understand them better rather than those who reeled away from them. After some anguishing, I feel the same now. The fear is as much a habit as it is a fixed response.

Maybe that's just how I cope, but then again -- that is what you asked.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#18
I haven't seen the AI content. If I have it is vert convincing! Ocassionaly a HN reply is GPT ... but it is obviously is and gets downvoted. AI coding is useful to me to save typing. If I know what I want and the copilot suggests the same I take the suggestion. It is handy.

Twitter is a shitshow but that is biologically generated nonsense! And the hot take engagement is spreading to linkedin leading to borification of these platforms and my minimal use of them.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#19
post #12

You have to realize you are part of the problem. The old traditional forums didn't die because of AI but because you stopped contributing to them. There is a reason HN is still alive. If you want to maintain the "old" web, you have to keep browsing and interacting with the old web. I keep an old fashioned website ( https://omarabid.com ) and there are barely any viewers. Google completely de-ranked the site for no re…

> Google completely de-ranked the site for no reason

The reason was that they decided to remove web search from Google search.

Google is still useful for searching Google sites however.

Personally I'm kind of OK letting some other search engines bloom along with some human curation.

Re: Fucking Tired of AI

#20
post #5

Where do you hide? Sure, you can and should create Dunbar-sized networks where everyone knows your name, but IIRC, Amazon sells AI clones of real books, "Scientific" papers are completely or partly AI. You can't buy an iPhone without AI (hoping my iPhone SE can't support it), your computer will have it, want it or not. And every damn business and agency you deal with will, if for no other reason, it eliminates jobs,…

There are probably health benefits to limiting how much AI-generated slop you consume.

As you note, the dream of replacing expensive and unruly humans with unpaid, compliant robots is extremely attractive to most large businesses.

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