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Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

dyauspitr wrote: post #9
LinuxBender wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have a horse in this race but in my opinion a more graceful way to deal with this is to freeze the account until the under-16 is over-16 so they don't lose their friend connections, history, etc... The under 16 should have time to add a comment saying how to contact them otherwise. Discord group, etc... There must be a reason to remove the account that I can not see.

Ideally they do lose all of that. That’s the root of the problem.

> Ideally they do lose all of that. That’s the root of the problem.

Where is the problem with this?

The problem rather is that the user did not create a private backup of the data that he wants to keep.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by llui85 »

xienze wrote: post #10
dyauspitr wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do they plan on verifying age without using a government id?

They have something called “myID” (a digital ID), which is available to anyone 15 or older.

I believe that myID is also explicitly excluded as part of the bill.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by kranner »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #11
dyauspitr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally they do lose all of that. That’s the root of the problem.

> Ideally they do lose all of that. That’s the root of the problem. Where is the problem with this? The problem rather is that the user did not create a private backup of the data that he wants to keep.

Possible contact with pedophiles, groomers, etc.

Once the child is over 16, they can add all their real-world friends again.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by makeitdouble »

Is the actual discussed measure available somewhere ? Looking around none of the articles discussing this had references to official documents.

Judging from the info in the article:

- kids will have one year to see which platforms are not categorized as SNS, yet can be used as such.

- kids stuck with brainwashing parents, especially in remote rural areas, will have it a bit more tougher I guess.

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by lmpdev »

My friend is a media lawyer in Australia

He can’t even advise if some video game developers he represents’ multiplayer games are exempt from the ban

He says the legislation is just an under defined word salad

Note this was several days ago and it may have been amended in the mean time

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by makeitdouble »

Aeolun wrote: post #3

What they're really saying is that all websites will add a 'are you really over 16' checkbox?

Apparently the gov has been setting up their own system for that:

https://www.esafety.gov.au/newsroom/media-releases/statement...

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by gus_massa »

dyauspitr wrote: post #9
LinuxBender wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have a horse in this race but in my opinion a more graceful way to deal with this is to freeze the account until the under-16 is over-16 so they don't lose their friend connections, history, etc... The under 16 should have time to add a comment saying how to contact them otherwise. Discord group, etc... There must be a reason to remove the account that I can not see.

Ideally they do lose all of that. That’s the root of the problem.

It may include all my friends from primary school and a photos of my late grandma.

(Disclaimer: I'm so old that at 16 I didn't ever had email. Please don't delete all my old stuff.)

Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws

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Post by llui85 »

makeitdouble wrote: post #15

Is the actual discussed measure available somewhere ? Looking around none of the articles discussing this had references to official documents. Judging from the info in the article: - kids will have one year to see which platforms are not categorized as SNS, yet can be used as such. - kids stuck with brainwashing parents, especially in remote rural areas, will have it a bit more tougher I guess.

https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bi... (explanatory memorandum here: https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/em...)

And the amendment to the first reading which was agreed to today which has the bits about ID verification being disallowed: https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/am... (supplementary explanatory memorandum here: https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/em...)

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