Planned obsolescence.
Windows 10's farewell tour – not AI PCs – set to drive laptop sales in 2025
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#13Planned obsolescence.
Umm, I guess technically it is? We've known about Windows 10 EOL date for a long time now, since it was first released in 2015.
Say what you will about Microsoft, but they have consistently supported Windows for a MINIMUM of 10 years since Windows XP (2001). That's absolutely a solid record when you compare it to the computing half-life of support that other tech companies usually give. Look at Samsung, or even Google. Hell even Apple maxes out at 7.5 years for it's longest supported device.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's a PC that has a decent NPU. Nondeterministic processing unit?
Neural Processing Unit
But all they add to Windows is optical character recognition and webcam backgrounds, so really they're just ultra efficient GPUs, nothing neural about it
I assumed they would do some kind of local LLM that helped me find files, but no, the search function in windows explorer has actually regressed and no longer matches on exact substrings.
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#15Planned obsolescence.
Umm, I guess technically it is? We've known about Windows 10 EOL date for a long time now, since it was first released in 2015. Say what you will about Microsoft, but they have consistently supported Windows for a MINIMUM of 10 years since Windows XP (2001). That's absolutely a solid record when you compare it to the computing half-life of support that other tech companies usually give. Look at Samsung, or even Googl…
I don't recall EOL being acknowledged until quite recently, a quick search brings me to a "confirmation" last year [0]. Not to mention the 2015 evangelism slip up that errantly put on record that Windows 10 would be "the last version of Windows" [1]
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2023/04/30/microsof...
[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/05/08/window...
Re: Windows 10's farewell tour – not AI PCs – set to drive laptop sales in 2025
#16I'm sure the 25% tariffs to start are going to kill pretty much all laptop sales next year anyways. I don't think anything at all will be driving laptop sales.
Don't be ridiculous. Consumers will still have plenty of American-made laptops, made from American-sourced parts, to choose from.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Neural Processing Unit
But all they add to Windows is optical character recognition and webcam backgrounds, so really they're just ultra efficient GPUs, nothing neural about it I assumed they would do some kind of local LLM that helped me find files, but no, the search function in windows explorer has actually regressed and no longer matches on exact substrings.
There are a lot more features than that.
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#18Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is supported until 2032 thankfully.
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#19The AI PC marketing campaign as of now is not good. What exactly is an AI PC? Many consumers are still uneasy with some AI use and just tagging this label onto a laptop doenst look to be increasing mindshare or moving units.
Easy: it is a "smart" PC 4.0
Re: Windows 10's farewell tour – not AI PCs – set to drive laptop sales in 2025
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Umm, I guess technically it is? We've known about Windows 10 EOL date for a long time now, since it was first released in 2015. Say what you will about Microsoft, but they have consistently supported Windows for a MINIMUM of 10 years since Windows XP (2001). That's absolutely a solid record when you compare it to the computing half-life of support that other tech companies usually give. Look at Samsung, or even Googl…
I don't recall EOL being acknowledged until quite recently, a quick search brings me to a "confirmation" last year [0]. Not to mention the 2015 evangelism slip up that errantly put on record that Windows 10 would be "the last version of Windows" [1] [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2023/04/30/microsof... [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/05/08/window...
They acknowledged the exact date in 2022 just before Windows 11 was released: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows...
But even then, what point are you even trying to make? Windows 10, like previous releases before it, when its support end, will mean it was supported for a solid 10 years. I mean, that's a lifetime in tech; 2015 was the iPhone 6s.