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Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
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Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#12may i ask whats the horror with adwords? email wise whats cumbersome with proton is it tries to upsell me again and again with its add-ons. on google workspace i can say the best advantage is how almost 90% other sites out there supports signing in with google. and it's also cheap at $6 per head, and it doesnt harass you with upsells unlike proton.
Lots of stories about having google account connected to adwords locked out for various reasons, not all valid.
There's are several third party Google backup services for the paranoid...
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#13At a startup you can run your company on the communication tools provided in Google workspace. There's much more to this than calendar and email. Tagged comments for coordinating actions, using gdocs with meetings and transcription and summarization by Gemini, communal editing and sharing, the gdocs history, sheets and slides, backup and logging tools, domain management and more. If you use proton, you get Google workspace from 15 years ago, at best.
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#14Proton suffers from the Lavabit problem but worse, it pretends to offer security and freedom when it does neither and acts as a tool of foreign governments to abuse individuals. Use your own GPG keys and better clients, preferably with self-hosting in Iceland or Sweden.
For truly sensitive communication, it’s better to use Signal: https://soatok.blog/2024/11/15/what-to-use-instead-of-pgp/
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#15I don't know about their business suite.
I've used their calendar and email. The calendar has had issues over the past few months where it would revert unexpectedly and silently back to a previous date (like they reverted to backup but no notification), with all changes and appointments changed after that date being lost.
Some of the email features are very dependent on browser features where you can't set them manually for example timezones impact all visible dates among both apps, and are derived from the metadata of the client which don't update to the current date/time but to last visited time.
If you happen to be traveling, this can cause missed appointments/confusion when you do the mental gymnastics from your original timezone.
Personally, I don't think its ready for production requirements of business.
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots of stories about having google account connected to adwords locked out for various reasons, not all valid.
There's are several third party Google backup services for the paranoid...
It's not about backups - it's about loss of ongoing use infrastructure
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's are several third party Google backup services for the paranoid...
It's not about backups - it's about loss of ongoing use infrastructure
The backup mitigates the problem because, if you are banned, which only happens to fools and fakes, you can take the backup and set it up on another service. Sure, you lose a couple of days of time migrating, but that's not a reason to avoid choosing a better solution.
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#18It's amusing to see people here continuing to recommend Google tools for core aspects of some shiny, fragile, new startup despite so many, many posts and comments on HN having been placed time and time again describing how arbitrary that monster can be about cutting you completely down from whatever it offers you for some bullshit algorithmic reason or another, and with near zero customer service recourse.
By now Google often acts worse than the complaints departments of many government agencies, which at least usually by law have to have a human accesible to you somewhere along the line. Yet it keeps getting recommended by either the clueless or the indifferent.
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#19I am bootstraping, and have used proton for years as my only email, but have my own email now, and am slowly backing out of proton. The horrible way that they extort by limiting and degrading a service is only part of the problem.They degraded email replies at one point, to a tiny "page" with less than one full line of text. There is more, but proton is not worth the effort to remember and detail all of it. I will us…
Same here. When you say your own email, do you mean Fastmail? I love Proton and they got me and my SO largely off of Google. Fastmail is just so good, I’m going to migrate everything there eventually.
Re: Has anyone used Proton Business Suite rather than Google's for a startup?
#20It's amusing to see people here continuing to recommend Google tools for core aspects of some shiny, fragile, new startup despite so many, many posts and comments on HN having been placed time and time again describing how arbitrary that monster can be about cutting you completely down from whatever it offers you for some bullshit algorithmic reason or another, and with near zero customer service recourse. By now Goo…
Yea, my dumbass used Google voice as my main 2fa number and recently lost access to it. Can't get it back and I'm locked out of everything. Don't be like me. Google really can't be trusted for personal or business use. If I could talk to a human and pay $100 for it I would.