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RIM announces US$100M investment to grow BlackBerry developer community

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Re: RIM announces US$100M investment to grow BlackBerry developer community

#11
Half of the RIM appworld is just useless crap, and that's on the BlackBerry and the PlayBook. They should invest in developers — but in house. Come on, there isn't a single beautiful and stable Twitter client for the PlayBook (and the OS isn't, either). It's awkward to use a PlayBook.

Shameless plug: http://adrian.re/why-suits-are-killing-rim (I still believe that if it's just the big guys writing checks instead of working towards a change, money will never come back)

Re: RIM announces US$100M investment to grow BlackBerry developer community

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Wow, so you can still bribe people in some ways. I must say its all very well handing out free tablets etc and offering incentives but maybe getting a few key applications ported and even paying to get them ported would be a better investment. Reason I say this is having read this part "One of such programs incentivizes developers to build apps for BlackBerry 10 by guaranteeing the developers US$10,000 in revenues fr…

“I must say its all very well handing out free tablets etc and offering incentives but maybe getting a few key applications ported and even paying to get them ported would be a better investment.” I doubt it. Microsoft has done everything you mentioned, but it hasn't helped Windows Phone 7. Instead, they've decided to bury WP7 and are starting over with WP8. And Windows Phone is a decent OS. RIM doesn't have a good O…

> Honestly, I don't think RIM will still exist this time next year.

RIM is going to hell in a handbasket, but they'll be around for another 5-10 years. Why? Their market cap is still $4B, their cash on hand is $1.5B (no debt). They may be hemorrhaging users and losing developer mindshare, but they have a lot of money and a lot of time left to make dumb mistakes in hopes of one of them working out. C.f. Yahoo.

Re: RIM announces US$100M investment to grow BlackBerry developer community

#14
I wouldn't recommend developing for Blackberry. They don't care about software copyright. For example, my app has been copied and submitted to App World illegally by some guy in Dubai. So far my DMCA requests have been promptly ignored (and it's been over a year).

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post #15

RIM still has $100M in the bank?

They have over a billion in the bank and are still profitable. People LOVE stories about RIM going down the drain for whatever reason, so these stats are conveniently not mentioned. I am not saying there are no problems, but really this is one bandwagon that needs to sloooooow doooown.

Re: RIM announces US$100M investment to grow BlackBerry developer community

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post #2

Wow, so you can still bribe people in some ways. I must say its all very well handing out free tablets etc and offering incentives but maybe getting a few key applications ported and even paying to get them ported would be a better investment. Reason I say this is having read this part "One of such programs incentivizes developers to build apps for BlackBerry 10 by guaranteeing the developers US$10,000 in revenues fr…

  charge $10 or whatever price and get a few friends
  to buy that application
Your plan will backfire. There's no way you'll be able to bribe 100 people to buy BlackBerry 10 smartphones.

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post #3
post #2

Wow, so you can still bribe people in some ways. I must say its all very well handing out free tablets etc and offering incentives but maybe getting a few key applications ported and even paying to get them ported would be a better investment. Reason I say this is having read this part "One of such programs incentivizes developers to build apps for BlackBerry 10 by guaranteeing the developers US$10,000 in revenues fr…

Your comment is somewhat hyperbolic and misinformed. Firstly the Blackberry program outlined is not a bribe. They are clearly digging in and offering large incentives, but lets not throw "bribery" around. Secondly the $10k program is not going to be a free for all, it will be offered to "... apps that qualify for the program must be certified, paid apps built for the BlackBerry 10 and manage to earn at least US$1,000…

Seems like an odd sort of incentive to me.

There is about 18 months worth of risk to the developer to invest on an unproven platform with a phone maker that has seen a dramatic decline in fortunes.

No phones will be released until 2013, so you have that lead time during which there won't be any purchases, then the app has to be on the BB10 market for at least a year.

The developer has to develop or port the app, certify it with RIMM, keep it on the market for a year, hope there are enough phone buyers to make at least $1000 in sales, and then, assuming RIMM hasn't gone under, they will get a top off payment up to $10K.

For me that would be a lot of work and risk for $10K.

Re: RIM announces US$100M investment to grow BlackBerry developer community

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I wouldn't recommend developing for Blackberry. They don't care about software copyright. For example, my app has been copied and submitted to App World illegally by some guy in Dubai. So far my DMCA requests have been promptly ignored (and it's been over a year).

Aren't they in Canada, and thus, aren't you invoking the wrong law?

Re: RIM announces US$100M investment to grow BlackBerry developer community

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post #15

RIM still has $100M in the bank?

I'm sure they do, but given that there won't be any BB10 phones released until 2013 and then the developer won't see any top off payment for another year after that, I guess the question should be "will RIMM still have $100M in the bank on July 2014?"
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