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C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I participated for r/cpp for a very large number of years, including quite a number of high-impact posts - just not with that account. And would you be so kind to actually link to the comment you banned me for? This is it, for everyone to see and judge: https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1gyiwwc/c_standards_co...

> I participated for r/cpp for a very large number of years, including quite a number of high-impact posts - just not with that account. Interesting that you did not choose to voice your opinions using your main accounts on that community then. > And would you be so kind to actually link to the comment you banned me for? This is it, for everyone to see and judge: Nah, that was just the comment I used to get to your p…

> Interesting that you did not choose to voice your opinions using your main accounts on that community then

Yes, it's interesting that someone opted to use an alternate account to discuss a contentious issue on a platform rife with censorship and deplatforming.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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post #10

There has to be extra context here. There is no way we’re getting the full picture. If it really is just as simple as including “question” in the title of a paper then there is some serious mismanagement occurring.

Those were my thoughts exactly - though it is 2024, and I have a sinking feeling it could be just as the article states.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

#15
While the title could indeed be a reference to the 4chan "The xxx question" meme (e.g., "The femboy question"), which is derived from "The Jewish question," it's not clear if that was the author's actual intention, and even if it was, most uses of the meme (see the femboy example) are not facially antisemitic and at worst are just examples of edgelord humor.

It looks like C++ is finally succumbing to entryism, meaning it will no longer serve as a sane alternative to Rust.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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This slashdot article has a big gap in it

1. Person publishes a thing with a title including the word “Question”

2. People say this title has some resonance to do with the Nazi genocide and ask him to change it

3. He refuses to change it

5. He gets expelled from the committee

You see the missing piece? Unlike the title, the body text doesn’t say he was expelled for the title or even for refusing to change it. It says he refused to change the title and then later was expelled. I could see a hypothetical situation in which he was totally in the right to refuse to change the title but acted like such a jerk in the ensuing debate that they fired him from the committee. We just don’t know. Imagine I publish a thing, my employer ask me to change the title, I say no, then the next time I go to work I steal all the furniture and they fire me. It would have the same pattern as the facts in the article.

Personally it seems very strange to fire him for using the word “Question” (if that’s what they did) but it also seems very strange for him to choose to die on that hill and not change the word if people find it really provocative (if that is what he did). “On the effects of undefined behaviour” seems a much better title than the one he chose for example. So it seems we’re lacking context here.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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and r/cpp mods just woke up, banning everyone who question (am I still allowed to use that word?) this lunatic behavior. For context: A week ago, someone out for blood put out a slander article referencing this amongst other things. edit: After going on a banning spree, foonathan nuked the thread with "I am not going to deal with this on a Sunday". Nice

I’m not sure complaining on HN about being banned from a subreddit makes much sense.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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The last few times I've seen technical groups kick someone out over racism, including anti-semitism, they picked one point where the person kept doubling down after a very long history of borderline rule following behavior that was clearly malicious. I would be very surprised to see if this was different.

While I agree in principle that we can't allow the word question to be destroyed by hate speech, there are always assholes who ride up to some line to be dicks to someone using whatever the boundaries of the rules are. I want to know what happened here and if that was the case.

Re: C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question'

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This slashdot article has a big gap in it 1. Person publishes a thing with a title including the word “Question” 2. People say this title has some resonance to do with the Nazi genocide and ask him to change it 3. He refuses to change it 5. He gets expelled from the committee You see the missing piece? Unlike the title, the body text doesn’t say he was expelled for the title or even for refusing to change it. It says…

I'm not sure if you are being serious or not. If the former, there are two problems with the "employer": (1) finding a problem where there is none, (2) firing a person for sticking to the common sense rather that giving in to meaningless accusations.
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