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Hundreds More Nazca Lines Emerge in Peru's Desert

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Re: Hundreds More Nazca Lines Emerge in Peru's Desert

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Chariots of The Gods.

FYI, Erich von Däniken's book "Chariots of the Gods?" is racist pseudo-scientific claptrap. My Archaeoastronomy professor at the University of Maryland, John B. Carlson, despises it. It attributes the achievements of ancient non-European civilizations to extraterrestrial visitors, undermining their intelligence and capabilities, promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence, misinterprets artifacts, ignore…

How about IMO rather than FYI ? We can make up our own minds.

'ignores scientific consensus'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superseded_scientific_...

'promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence'. Haven't Peter Woit and Lee Smolin pointed out how String Theory does exactly that? Have their criticisms been made redundant by more recent research? I have no idea but maybe a physicist would care to comment.

Re: Hundreds More Nazca Lines Emerge in Peru's Desert

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FYI, Erich von Däniken's book "Chariots of the Gods?" is racist pseudo-scientific claptrap. My Archaeoastronomy professor at the University of Maryland, John B. Carlson, despises it. It attributes the achievements of ancient non-European civilizations to extraterrestrial visitors, undermining their intelligence and capabilities, promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence, misinterprets artifacts, ignore…

In fairness the same group believes many of the white man's (specifically US) achievements are from reversed alien technology.

The bar is so much higher for what white man’s technologies is considered alien technology. For other groups, building a basic building with lined up bricks seems to be too much to be attributed to them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI, Erich von Däniken's book "Chariots of the Gods?" is racist pseudo-scientific claptrap. My Archaeoastronomy professor at the University of Maryland, John B. Carlson, despises it. It attributes the achievements of ancient non-European civilizations to extraterrestrial visitors, undermining their intelligence and capabilities, promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence, misinterprets artifacts, ignore…

I just remember it as part of the craze in the 1970's for "Mysteries of the Unexplained" type stuff. Pyramid Power, UFOs, Sasquatch, etc etc

Does anyone remember the 70s TV show "In Search of..." hosted by Leonard Nimoy?

I loved that show and I ate up all the literature I could find about the paranormal back then. Kids will believe anything!

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI, Erich von Däniken's book "Chariots of the Gods?" is racist pseudo-scientific claptrap. My Archaeoastronomy professor at the University of Maryland, John B. Carlson, despises it. It attributes the achievements of ancient non-European civilizations to extraterrestrial visitors, undermining their intelligence and capabilities, promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence, misinterprets artifacts, ignore…

How about IMO rather than FYI ? We can make up our own minds. 'ignores scientific consensus'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superseded_scientific_... 'promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence'. Haven't Peter Woit and Lee Smolin pointed out how String Theory does exactly that? Have their criticisms been made redundant by more recent research? I have no idea but maybe a physicist would care to c…

Sometimes (and often) pseudoscientific bullshit is just objectively wrong, and you'd have to be completely out of your mind, or just trolling, to "make up your own mind" to believe it.

No sane flat earthers in this day and age actually believe the earth is flat, or deserve to have their presumed beliefs respected or even humored, because they're just being contrarian and trolling for attention, so it's perfectly valid to say to them "FYI, the Earth is not flat."

I refuse to couch my firm disbelief that the Earth is flat as an opinion that might possibly be wrong, by saying "IMO, the Earth is not flat." Flat Earthers (also Young Earthers) certainly aren't couching their crazy beliefs as opinions, so don't deserve it in return.

"Chariots of the Gods?" is also that objectively wrong: there is no possible universe in which its claims are true. It's all based on historically ignorant Argument from Incredulity and inherently racist assumptions. In the 50th anniversary edition, von Däniken refused to address, admit, or correct any of the many widely proven errors in the book that made him so much money and fame, so he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

Believing in pseudoscientific claptrap like Homeopathy, or the objectively false stories of Adam and Eve or Noah's Ark is just as ridiculous. They're physically and mathematically and logically and practically impossible. So it's also fine to say "FYI it's biblical fiction, and the Earth is definitely not 6000 years old, and you absolutely can not fit and feed and clean that many animals in a wooden ark." It's not my opinion, it's objective information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OhXQTMOEc

To pretend otherwise feels like humoring a small child who still believes in Santa Claus.

Re: Hundreds More Nazca Lines Emerge in Peru's Desert

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about IMO rather than FYI ? We can make up our own minds. 'ignores scientific consensus'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superseded_scientific_... 'promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence'. Haven't Peter Woit and Lee Smolin pointed out how String Theory does exactly that? Have their criticisms been made redundant by more recent research? I have no idea but maybe a physicist would care to c…

Sometimes (and often) pseudoscientific bullshit is just objectively wrong, and you'd have to be completely out of your mind, or just trolling, to "make up your own mind" to believe it. No sane flat earthers in this day and age actually believe the earth is flat, or deserve to have their presumed beliefs respected or even humored, because they're just being contrarian and trolling for attention, so it's perfectly vali…

IMO you explained this very well and with a patience I wouldn’t have with an HN flat earther, thanks.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just remember it as part of the craze in the 1970's for "Mysteries of the Unexplained" type stuff. Pyramid Power, UFOs, Sasquatch, etc etc

Does anyone remember the 70s TV show "In Search of..." hosted by Leonard Nimoy? I loved that show and I ate up all the literature I could find about the paranormal back then. Kids will believe anything!

And OMNI Magazine!

https://archive.org/details/OMNI197908/Best_of_OMNI_1_1980/

I still firmly believe that John Gilchrist, the "Little Mikey" child actor in Life Cereal commercials, exploded after consuming a combination of Pop Rocks candy and soda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2xMhRLVVs4

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about IMO rather than FYI ? We can make up our own minds. 'ignores scientific consensus'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superseded_scientific_... 'promotes speculative theories without empirical evidence'. Haven't Peter Woit and Lee Smolin pointed out how String Theory does exactly that? Have their criticisms been made redundant by more recent research? I have no idea but maybe a physicist would care to c…

Sometimes (and often) pseudoscientific bullshit is just objectively wrong, and you'd have to be completely out of your mind, or just trolling, to "make up your own mind" to believe it. No sane flat earthers in this day and age actually believe the earth is flat, or deserve to have their presumed beliefs respected or even humored, because they're just being contrarian and trolling for attention, so it's perfectly vali…

Bill Nye, lol.
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