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Re: Vivek Ramaswamy on X: "Will entire agencies be deleted? Answer: yes

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Post by gwurk »

steveoscaro wrote: post #7
mattgibson wrote: post #5

This looks horribly like failing to understand Chesterton's fence https://thoughtbot.com/blog/chestertons-fence The agencies were democratically put in place for a reason. Removing them with no public discussion of the original reasoning is deeply undemocratic. At the very least, someone thought that the cost of having them in place was less than the cost to society of not having them there. Has that changed?

Didn't a democracy vote in the people that are saying they want to remove some agencies? Isn't that also how the agencies came to be in the first place?

You are right, but america use a two party system, there were only two options, and those options differed in many ways, it is difficult to say if "removing some agencies" was what the people that voted wanted, or if they just preferred that candidate despite them wanting to remove some agencies.

Re: Vivek Ramaswamy on X: "Will entire agencies be deleted? Answer: yes

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Post by skepticATX »

Elon and Vivek have no authority to close a federal agency, and Trump doesn’t either.

We’re currently in the bloviating stage of this election cycle; once attention dies down I fully expect DOGE to achieve very little and to die a slow death.

The sad part of all of this is that the government could absolutely be more efficient than it currently is, while still providing the same services. But that’d take serious thought and consensus building, which the incoming administration has no desire to engage in.

Re: Vivek Ramaswamy on X: "Will entire agencies be deleted? Answer: yes

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Post by mistrial9 »

mattgibson wrote: post #5

This looks horribly like failing to understand Chesterton's fence https://thoughtbot.com/blog/chestertons-fence The agencies were democratically put in place for a reason. Removing them with no public discussion of the original reasoning is deeply undemocratic. At the very least, someone thought that the cost of having them in place was less than the cost to society of not having them there. Has that changed?

keyword search "spoils system"

Re: Vivek Ramaswamy on X: "Will entire agencies be deleted? Answer: yes

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Post by wufufufu »

There are no clear details about what DOGE will alter. All the information we have so far amounts to outrage-bait one-liners. Where and how are they deciding to make cuts, and which agencies are they planning to change? Cutting is not intrinsically a good or bad idea, but everything I’ve read about this so far makes DOGE seem anti-intellectual.

Re: Vivek Ramaswamy on X: "Will entire agencies be deleted? Answer: yes

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Post by nickthegreek »

wufufufu wrote: post #15

There are no clear details about what DOGE will alter. All the information we have so far amounts to outrage-bait one-liners. Where and how are they deciding to make cuts, and which agencies are they planning to change? Cutting is not intrinsically a good or bad idea, but everything I’ve read about this so far makes DOGE seem anti-intellectual.

They wont alter anything, as they are a presidential commission and not a department of the government.

Re: Vivek Ramaswamy on X: "Will entire agencies be deleted? Answer: yes

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Post by 015a »

wufufufu wrote: post #15

There are no clear details about what DOGE will alter. All the information we have so far amounts to outrage-bait one-liners. Where and how are they deciding to make cuts, and which agencies are they planning to change? Cutting is not intrinsically a good or bad idea, but everything I’ve read about this so far makes DOGE seem anti-intellectual.

Well, its a department that literally does not exist yet because the regime that wants to build it isn't in power yet. So, maybe have a bit of patience before breaking out the name-calling.
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