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As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by scotty79 »

Vampiero wrote: post #10
Teever wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would probably be ridiculously illegal to put substances in products that are designed to counter the function of prescription medication. It's the kind of thing that I hope would result in not only massive fines for the corporations but jail time for the people involved in the decision making and the R&D.

Coca Cola has phosphoric acid in it so you don't puke from the fact that it contains unnatural amounts of sugar. Sugar itself, in its processed form, is quite unnatural and causes cravings and addiction. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't get much sugar aside from fructose. Conclusion: sugar is mostly used by the industry because it's addictive.

I don't think there's anything sinister about using acid to make sugar taste better.

You can put ungodly amount of sugar in your tea if you squeeze half a lemon into it and it's delicious.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by bamboozled »

scotty79 wrote: post #11
Vampiero wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coca Cola has phosphoric acid in it so you don't puke from the fact that it contains unnatural amounts of sugar. Sugar itself, in its processed form, is quite unnatural and causes cravings and addiction. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't get much sugar aside from fructose. Conclusion: sugar is mostly used by the industry because it's addictive.

I don't think there's anything sinister about using acid to make sugar taste better. You can put ungodly amount of sugar in your tea if you squeeze half a lemon into it and it's delicious.

tired of it already , feel like all this food bashing is the new “wokeness”. I enjoyed coca-cola in moderation for decades, so what ?

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by bamboozled »

tayo42 wrote: post #5
Teever wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would probably be ridiculously illegal to put substances in products that are designed to counter the function of prescription medication. It's the kind of thing that I hope would result in not only massive fines for the corporations but jail time for the people involved in the decision making and the R&D.

The US is about enter an era of no government regulation...

I love the excuse given for destroying the FDA, “they are corrupt and allow food coloring in front loops”, you ain’t seen nothing yet boy …

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by addicted »

Vampiero wrote: post #10
Teever wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would probably be ridiculously illegal to put substances in products that are designed to counter the function of prescription medication. It's the kind of thing that I hope would result in not only massive fines for the corporations but jail time for the people involved in the decision making and the R&D.

Coca Cola has phosphoric acid in it so you don't puke from the fact that it contains unnatural amounts of sugar. Sugar itself, in its processed form, is quite unnatural and causes cravings and addiction. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't get much sugar aside from fructose. Conclusion: sugar is mostly used by the industry because it's addictive.

Our hunter gatherer ancestors didn’t wear clothes, live in housing, use technology, or anything like we do today.

This is literally the worst justification for anything.

Even the “unprocessed” food we eat today, including plants or dead animal flesh is nothing like what the hunter gatherer ancestors ate.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by pvaldes »

Vampiero wrote: post #10
Teever wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would probably be ridiculously illegal to put substances in products that are designed to counter the function of prescription medication. It's the kind of thing that I hope would result in not only massive fines for the corporations but jail time for the people involved in the decision making and the R&D.

Coca Cola has phosphoric acid in it so you don't puke from the fact that it contains unnatural amounts of sugar. Sugar itself, in its processed form, is quite unnatural and causes cravings and addiction. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't get much sugar aside from fructose. Conclusion: sugar is mostly used by the industry because it's addictive.

Processed sugar is glucose. Glucose is all except "quite unnatural" in our metabolism. Physiology in animals is based on energy provided by any stuff that can be converted into sugar. Our brains will die in a few minutes without glucose. This reminds me the lemon juice panic when used as additive.

We can talk about if this sugar has pesticides or other substances mixed with it in the post process that are toxic, but this trend of people saying that glucose is addictive is ludicrous. Unlike real drugs, we really need it to live. Would you trust somebody saying that oxygen is a drug and people should stop consuming it?

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by ohthatsnotright »

Teever wrote: post #9
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #7

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They already put substances in food to make us crave them more. It's not a huge leap from there.

It is a huge leap from the status quo to intentionally disrupting the effects of prescription drugs. One is unscrupulous and the other is blatantly illegal.

Not for long, given who will be running the next administrations FDA, and the general cult of "de-regulation" taking hold.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by sabbaticaldev »

ohthatsnotright wrote: post #16
Teever wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a huge leap from the status quo to intentionally disrupting the effects of prescription drugs. One is unscrupulous and the other is blatantly illegal.

Not for long, given who will be running the next administrations FDA, and the general cult of "de-regulation" taking hold.

someone that voted for them would argue that those regulations are what brought us to the current predicament. It’s currently very legal to make addictive unhealthy food

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Post by sabbaticaldev »

pvaldes wrote: post #15
Vampiero wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coca Cola has phosphoric acid in it so you don't puke from the fact that it contains unnatural amounts of sugar. Sugar itself, in its processed form, is quite unnatural and causes cravings and addiction. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't get much sugar aside from fructose. Conclusion: sugar is mostly used by the industry because it's addictive.

Processed sugar is glucose. Glucose is all except "quite unnatural" in our metabolism. Physiology in animals is based on energy provided by any stuff that can be converted into sugar. Our brains will die in a few minutes without glucose. This reminds me the lemon juice panic when used as additive. We can talk about if this sugar has pesticides or other substances mixed with it in the post process that are toxic, but…

our brain won’t die a few minutes without sugar, not even days. You should learn about ketones (which i’m sure you already know, why some ppl are addicted to spread misinformation?)

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

#19

Post by sabbaticaldev »

bamboozled wrote: post #12
scotty79 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think there's anything sinister about using acid to make sugar taste better. You can put ungodly amount of sugar in your tea if you squeeze half a lemon into it and it's delicious.

tired of it already , feel like all this food bashing is the new “wokeness”. I enjoyed coca-cola in moderation for decades, so what ?

i have a friend literally dying because he can’t stop being addicted to coke. Even with his kidneys and liver stopping working, he’ll still drink it. So what, you ask?

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

#20

Post by everforward »

sabbaticaldev wrote: post #18
pvaldes wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Processed sugar is glucose. Glucose is all except "quite unnatural" in our metabolism. Physiology in animals is based on energy provided by any stuff that can be converted into sugar. Our brains will die in a few minutes without glucose. This reminds me the lemon juice panic when used as additive. We can talk about if this sugar has pesticides or other substances mixed with it in the post process that are toxic, but…

our brain won’t die a few minutes without sugar, not even days. You should learn about ketones (which i’m sure you already know, why some ppl are addicted to spread misinformation?)

You would be incorrect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroglycopenia if your blood glucose levels dropped to 0, you would die pretty rapidly. It’s analogous to unmanaged Type 1 diabetes in a vague sense.

There is no physiological requirement for dietary carbohydrates. There is a requirement for glucose, but your body can create it from non-carbohydrate sources including the acetone produced by ketones. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

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