Multiply your original estimate by 3, works most of the time
When did estimates turn into deadlines?
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Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#12Multiply your original estimate by 3, works most of the time
Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#13With constant feedback, the whole team is participating in the emergent complexity, instead of being passive and just annoying you with "is it done yet"?
Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#14I've found that most management just want to be involved in the process and have definite times set for updates and can handle timeline changes as long as information is coming at regular intervals.
Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#15Multiply your original estimate by 3, works most of the time
So: 2 hours -> 4 days, 1 week -> 2 months, etc.
(I'm not sure where this turned up, but it's a long time ago, going on three decades.)
The other option is to carefully track tasks, relevant dimensions, estimates, and actual performance, and see if there's any prediction modelling which can be derived from that. Problem is that this a classic instance of modelling in which the model itself affects the domain (as with economics and sociology, contrasted with astronomy and meterology where this isn't the case), such that estimates incorporating past performance data will incorporate the fact that the prediction model is being used.
Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#16Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#17Multiply your original estimate by 3, works most of the time
Montgomery Scott recommends 4 instead.
I've certainly seen some environments — plural — where a task that should take 1 hour actually takes 2 days, and one that should take 2 days takes 4 weeks.
Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#18Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#19You should not provide an estimate for "feature X implemented", but rather for "feature X engine". If you discover additional work to be done, then you need to add "existing code refactor", "feature X+Y integration", etc. as discovered milestones.
Unfortunately, you need that nomenclature and understanding to go up the chain for this to work. If someone turns your "feature X engine" milestone into "feature X complete" with the same estimate, you are screwed.
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There is a related problem that I've seen in my career: leadership thinks that deadlines are "motivating".
These are the same people that want to heat their home to a temperature of 72F, but set the thermostat to 80F "so it will do it faster".
I was once in a leadership meeting, where the other participants forgot that I, lowly engineer, was invited to this meeting. Someone asked if we should accept that deadline X was very unlikely to be met, and substitute a more realistic deadline. To which the senior PM responded that "we never move deadlines! Engineering will just take any time given to them!"
Engineering, in that case, gave the time back when I left that team.
Re: When did estimates turn into deadlines?
#20Conversely, if you're trying to launch a space probe and the planets are no longer in the right positions for the required gravity assist, your spacecraft will not get where it needs to go. Or if you're a little $100M/yr toolmaker, and Ford asks you for a die for the 2026 F150 production line, to be delivered by March, and the contract states you owe a $20,000 per MINUTE penalty if you're late...you don't wait until February to say something surprising happened and it's not going to be ready. You don't sign on that dotted line unless you know for certain that you can do it.
Ford or NASA won't bat an eye when you tell them that a quote is going to cost $XX,XXX. They won't be surprised when they give you an ECO and you say that it's going to take 3 weeks and $8,000 to deliver a part that everyone knows you can probably make by hand in 30 minutes, they know that you're hedging against those deadlines, and pricing in the acceptance phase and inspection phase and contingency plans and everything else that makes their deadline-heavy industry function.
But if you tell someone at OP's modernization group that due to incomplete information you think that the 30-minute task to change the text of that button will take "no more than 3 weeks and $8,000" they'll laugh you out the door. Optimistic estimates get rewarded, pessimistic estimates get discouraged, accurate estimates are irrelevant, and in the end you're constantly behind schedule and no one's really surprised.