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Kogan.com mysteriously disappears from Microsoft Search Engines

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Re: Kogan.com mysteriously disappears from Microsoft Search Engines

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When I perform a search on bing the first result is the kogan website ... EDIT: It was the kogan.co.uk and not kogan.com since my country/region = UK

Neither "kogan" nor "kogan.com" return the website for me.

This is a screen shot of my search results http://i.imgur.com/If1E2.jpg

Re: Kogan.com mysteriously disappears from Microsoft Search Engines

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"We never waged war against Microsoft over IE7, we simply wanted people to upgrade their web browsers..." Maybe so, but the splash says "Use a better browser" and lists Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and Opera. It would be ridiculous for Microsoft to remove the page from their search results because of this, but at just a glance, and maybe to the untrained user, it could look like the are waging war on IE as a whole, and n…

IIRC, XP will only ever go as high as IE7 or IE8. Vista will only go as high as IE9. Anyone hanging around on those operating systems, will need to look outside of Microsoft for a more up-to-date browser.

Re: Kogan.com mysteriously disappears from Microsoft Search Engines

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"We never waged war against Microsoft over IE7, we simply wanted people to upgrade their web browsers..." Maybe so, but the splash says "Use a better browser" and lists Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and Opera. It would be ridiculous for Microsoft to remove the page from their search results because of this, but at just a glance, and maybe to the untrained user, it could look like the are waging war on IE as a whole, and n…

That true. They could've simply linked to the IE9 download page.

But I think MS's algorithm would have de-ranked the site because any IR algorithm considers the content of the page too - if the web page served to IE users is about redirecting to browser download pages, their crawler (which may identify itself as IE) might not consider it to be the best result about 'Kogan'.

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Interesting that it comes up in DDG, which I thought was partially backed by Bing. They augment the results quite a bit, though, so not terribly surprising.

Also, I made myself sad when I typed "kogan.com" into the address bar to test DDG and was shocked when the actual web site came up. Didn't think that one through...

Re: Kogan.com mysteriously disappears from Microsoft Search Engines

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When I perform a search on bing the first result is the kogan website ... EDIT: It was the kogan.co.uk and not kogan.com since my country/region = UK

I'm in the UK. I get the UK site as the first hit. I don't get the .com.au sites, even if I search for [kogan.com.au]

I've seen a few threads on HN where someone claims that Google has removed them from the search results (often after a Google update) and it turns out that the site had a weird set of errors. (mix ups about http and https, and about including or not the www.)

Re: Kogan.com mysteriously disappears from Microsoft Search Engines

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Maybe their crawler identifies as IE7?

Kogan's website isn't blocked for IE7, so I could not see how it can be a problem if the crawler identifies itself as IE7.

It is a problem if the site presents different content (that is, for example, the light box announcing the tax)

This may throw the search engines away, because you're "de-SEOing" your content

Re: Kogan.com mysteriously disappears from Microsoft Search Engines

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kogan's website isn't blocked for IE7, so I could not see how it can be a problem if the crawler identifies itself as IE7.

It is a problem if the site presents different content (that is, for example, the light box announcing the tax) This may throw the search engines away, because you're "de-SEOing" your content

Never heard about crawlers changing their user agents. Never thought they can do that. Interessing idea.
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