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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by thejazzman »

grecy wrote: post #4

How can any reasonable person know if any story about Tesla (good or bad) is actually factual and useful, or is just a story told from a particular angle to manipulate the stock price for gain? While many says it's the ultimate meme stock, I also can't help thinking it's the ultimate manipulation stock - it seems some people desperately want it to go down while others desperately want it to go up.

I've had one since 2015 and so many issues. When I share them on Reddit I'm downvoted into oblivion for going against the cult

It's gotten better in the last few years, now that millions of people share the issues, it's harder to drown them out

Doesn't seem to matter whatsoever for their stock, so that doesn't seems to be too relevant

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by lawn »

mattlondon wrote: post #6

> Karl Brauer said in the report. “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving.” ... implication being that Tesla drivers are more likely to be driving like pricks and/or under the influence? I wonder what the rates are like for specific models from other brands that…

Or that its very difficult to be alert when using Teslas FSD?

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Post by stoplight »

I wonder how much of this is because (IME anyway) Tesla drivers are not very good. With all that tech it's easy to get distracted (there's literally a giant tablet looking thing for a console). It's also easy to think all the bells and whistles will do things for you so drivers are paying less attention because the car will beep and holler at them if things are going awry (except by that point it's too late).

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Post by Lendal »

robterrell wrote: post #7
grecy wrote: post #4

How can any reasonable person know if any story about Tesla (good or bad) is actually factual and useful, or is just a story told from a particular angle to manipulate the stock price for gain? While many says it's the ultimate meme stock, I also can't help thinking it's the ultimate manipulation stock - it seems some people desperately want it to go down while others desperately want it to go up.

> analyzed data from the U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) Maybe not for the "reasonable person" but government data is available and if you are here you likely know some statistics, so go nuts: https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx and https://www.nhtsa.gov/research-data/fatality-analysis-report...

Now Elon will possibly in charge of making that government database disappear.

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Post by tifik »

mattlondon wrote: post #6

> Karl Brauer said in the report. “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving.” ... implication being that Tesla drivers are more likely to be driving like pricks and/or under the influence? I wonder what the rates are like for specific models from other brands that…

Or it's the drivers are not "focused, alert", because of the auto-pilot.

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Post by heywire »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #5
legitster wrote: post #3

In a big picture, this makes sense. You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy, very fast, and loaded with features that reward distracted driving. In the US at least, the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road.

In a bigger picture, cars are a bad solution to the problem of transportation at scale, and really always have been. As safety features go up, complacency goes up, and to be blunt that's combining with the fact that drivers are getting consistently worse overall at the skill anyway. Between EV's that are much, much heavier than ICE cars and SUVs/Trucks that are much larger than they need to be, vehicles themselves, d…

I would wager that most people don’t want to use public transit regularly. I know I certainly don’t.

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Post by ar_lan »

randomdata wrote: post #10
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a bigger picture, cars are a bad solution to the problem of transportation at scale, and really always have been. As safety features go up, complacency goes up, and to be blunt that's combining with the fact that drivers are getting consistently worse overall at the skill anyway. Between EV's that are much, much heavier than ICE cars and SUVs/Trucks that are much larger than they need to be, vehicles themselves, d…

> We really need to get serious about improving our transportation infrastructure. Better yet, we really need to consider urbanization. That way everything you need is right there by your own two feet. No need for any extra special transportation at all. It seems people have a burning desire to live the rural lifestyle, though, even in so-called cities. I'm not sure we can actually overcome that pressure.

> It seems people have a burning desire to live the rural lifestyle, though, even in so-called cities.

I just want like... to not be stacked like a sardine for $3500/mo. I would gladly take a rural lifestyle if I could find a job that would support it.

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