Magic Circle, is that something everyone is expected to know what is?
Folks in the UK are likely to: it is the professional guild for magicians.
For Americans, the best parallel is the Alliance of Magicians from Arrested Development.
Magic Circle tries to track down first female member – who posed as a man
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#12Magic Circle, is that something everyone is expected to know what is?
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#14This sounds like borderline stalking. I am not a woman, but I have my experience with getting treated unfairly/getting patronized. And I never felt like I wanted to give a bad actor a second chance to talk down to me, even if they pretend to have good intentions. If you fucked someone over, you dont have the right to run after them. Leave them alone, stop confronting them over and over again with your own stupidity.
It's stalking and it's objectifying the person for publicity decades later. Failing to locate her privately and now doxing her name in a major paper
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#15This sounds like borderline stalking. I am not a woman, but I have my experience with getting treated unfairly/getting patronized. And I never felt like I wanted to give a bad actor a second chance to talk down to me, even if they pretend to have good intentions. If you fucked someone over, you dont have the right to run after them. Leave them alone, stop confronting them over and over again with your own stupidity.
I think the new circle is somewhat different from the last one? Also I don't think it is stalking, when they did not even found her. If they did and she said go away, and they pressured on - that would be stalking. As of now, it is likely she does not even know about it.
Well, given that it's in _The Guardian_, there's a pretty good chance that she is indeed now aware of it.
Minor quibble: the current Magic Circle is not "different from the last one" because it is the same organisation—though it has obviously had a significant change of policy and a considerable turnover of membership in the three and a half decades since Sophie Lloyd was accepted as a member.
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#16I like to think that prior to the ban the meetings were like the stoning in life of brian
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the new circle is somewhat different from the last one? Also I don't think it is stalking, when they did not even found her. If they did and she said go away, and they pressured on - that would be stalking. As of now, it is likely she does not even know about it.
Well, given that it's in _The Guardian_, there's a pretty good chance that she is indeed now aware of it. Minor quibble: the current Magic Circle is not "different from the last one" because it is the same organisation—though it has obviously had a significant change of policy and a considerable turnover of membership in the three and a half decades since Sophie Lloyd was accepted as a member.
"there's a pretty good chance that she is indeed now aware of it."
Indeed. Maybe that was the point?
Or well, I actually rather suspect the motive to be the planned movie about the events, which is in need of PR ..
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Folks in the UK are likely to: it is the professional guild for magicians.
Or, informal term for a group of corporate law firms based in the UK. It wasn't clear to me what the article was actually about until the very end, not sure why didn't feel like spending at least one sentence making it clear up front who they're talking about.
I also assumed they were talking about a magic circle law firm. It's compounded by the fact that this kind of story is something you wouldn't be surprised hearing about a law firm in the old days (though hopefully not as late as 1991).
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#19"I would never join a club that would have me as a member." --Groucho Marx
The pity is that most people are naive enough to believe that most other people are decent human beings. It took me nearly five decades to understand that I shouldn't project my basic sense of decency on others, which is a grave mistake as most people are just selfish, exclusionary morons who think they're on the 'expert' side of the Dunning-Kruger scale.
Selfless compassion in the small and in the large -- that's the solution to all Earth's problems.
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#20"I would never join a club that would have me as a member." --Groucho Marx The pity is that most people are naive enough to believe that most other people are decent human beings. It took me nearly five decades to understand that I shouldn't project my basic sense of decency on others, which is a grave mistake as most people are just selfish, exclusionary morons who think they're on the 'expert' side of the Dunning-K…
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